Starter Issues


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swilkins44
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Starter Issues

Postby swilkins44 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:36 pm



I just replaced the battery in my GL1100 and the starter seems like the battery is not fully charged. I just installed the new battery and checked both cables leading to the battery posts. Have I missed a connection that may be corroded and causing a weak connection? The starter seems to drag but the bike will after a few turns start, but the starter doesn't turn over very quickly.



emt613
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby emt613 » Wed May 22, 2013 5:16 pm

First thing I would do is check the actual voltage output of the battery using a multi-meter. Should have a full 12 volts+. I recently bought a new battery and never was able to get more than 10 volts. Returned it to the store,,,they checked it and it had one dead cell. Even NEW batteries can be bad.

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patbrandon1
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Motorcycle: 1982 GL1100 I
1981 Honda CM400C

Re: Starter Issues

Postby patbrandon1 » Thu May 23, 2013 3:44 am

Check the bat. voltage first. Not only could it be a bad battery, but it could have been on the shelf long enough to not be fully charged. If you have a fully charged battery, and your starter is still struggling, there are a number of things to check. Make sure you have a totally clean ground connection from the battery to the bike frame. Make sure all connections on the solenoid are clean, and the terminals are in good shape. Check connection at the starter. If your battery has good voltage, and you know all the connections are good and clean and it still struggles, the starter may need a good cleaning, and maybe brushes. But check, check, check, to make sure the basic stuff is good first. Keep us posted, and others will chime in with help to get you going.

One quick question, and it may sound silly, but I am curious as to why you had to change the battery?

swilkins44
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby swilkins44 » Thu May 23, 2013 6:55 pm

I replaced the battery because the original battery was 3 years old and didn't hold a charge and last year the bike was getting hard to start. Thanks for all the ideas I'll try them and get back to you. Trying to sell bike and give it a new home. Just checked battery with multimeter voltage checks at 12 volts+. I'll try checking cables and ground next. Thanks a lot.

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patbrandon1
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby patbrandon1 » Thu May 23, 2013 9:14 pm

swilkins44 wrote:I replaced the battery because the original battery was 3 years old and didn't hold a charge and last year the bike was getting hard to start. Thanks for all the ideas I'll try them and get back to you. Trying to sell bike and give it a new home. Just checked battery with multimeter voltage checks at 12 volts+. I'll try checking cables and ground next. Thanks a lot.


How much are you asking for it? PM me if you are serious about selling. I don't live very far from Sandusky.

hrobinson
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby hrobinson » Thu May 23, 2013 9:38 pm

swilkins44 wrote:I replaced the battery because the original battery was 3 years old and didn't hold a charge and last year the bike was getting hard to start. Thanks for all the ideas I'll try them and get back to you. Trying to sell bike and give it a new home. Just checked battery with multimeter voltage checks at 12 volts+. I'll try checking cables and ground next. Thanks a lot.


hmm. 12+ volts ... take the cables off the battery and then measure the voltage. Give exact voltages. Also you can check to see if the battery is delivering the correct amperage by having it tested at a automotive parts store.

Does the starter drag some times and other times it does not?

-- Harold

dwight007fchr
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby dwight007fchr » Thu May 23, 2013 9:43 pm

When you get a new battery, you often must trickle charge it for a couple hours. It should be up at 12.75 volts when ready to go into the bike.

At least, that is what I have seen with my experience.

dwight

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Wilcoy02
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby Wilcoy02 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:35 pm

my bike was doing the same thing.. I finally had to push start the bike. starter has gone compute. Have you opened up your starter to see how much gunk is in there? The starter is where I would look first.

swilkins44
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby swilkins44 » Sat May 25, 2013 5:48 pm

The more I start and run the bike the starter seems to be working better than when I first started. Possibly could it be that the starter armature is dirty and just needs to be run or started more? Thanks.

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patbrandon1
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby patbrandon1 » Sun May 26, 2013 2:44 am

swilkins44 wrote:The more I start and run the bike the starter seems to be working better than when I first started. Possibly could it be that the starter armature is dirty and just needs to be run or started more? Thanks.


That is a slight possibility, but I think it is not the reason it's doing better. Is the weather a little warmer? If the starter is original, it is full of the original grease that has lost it's use as a result of time, and dirt from wear. Warmer weather make things move easier, but it may need to be cleaned and perhaps new brushes. Cheap enough fix. I would also run a Seafoam dose through the crankcase to clean up gunk in there too. 5 oz. Seafoam for at least 100 miles, not too hard, as the seafoam will thin the oil a little.

Did you make sure all the connections associated with your ignition are clean and secured well?

swilkins44
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Re: Starter Issues

Postby swilkins44 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:09 pm

I tried starting the bike today after running it an hour before and the starter would not turn the bike over at all. The bike is on the charger for a short while and it started. I'm checking the battery again for voltage, any other thoughts?




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