balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble


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johngagen
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balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby johngagen » Wed May 29, 2013 7:54 pm



I just finished putting dyna beads in the new dunlops I put on this past week.

Oh my god...should have done this a long time ago ! I have had a scary wobble in the front end ever since I bought this bike.
I've read every post about possible solutions. I admit I'm not an anal personality and have never fussed much about balancing tires.
Just lined up the yellow circle yeah that should be good enough.....never again.

when I put the new tires on I wasn't feeling like I was riding on a new rail...just not feeling good.....maybe i should have done those wheel bearings after all....

put 1 1/2 oz in each tire..... feels great, riding like on a rail now and virtually wobble free...

I havn't practiced an emergency stop where i've experienced major back and forth shaking, but when i'm going at a moderately low speed say 20-30 mph and let go of handle bars briefly to see how level things are the wobble that use to take over and rapidly become pretty violent is virtually gone !!

I'm very impressed and will use these forever...or at least balance my tires like a good boy should.

I'm riding a 1982 gl1100 interstate with 95000 on the clock.

best ten bucks I have spent in a long time(split it with buddy)



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Wilcoy02
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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby Wilcoy02 » Thu May 30, 2013 5:53 pm

I too love the dyna beads. I have put 1/2 oz in each motorcycle trailer tires, both my cars and my pickup truck.Tires last a lot longer and now I do not pay to have any tire balanced.
Plus my gl1100 lost it's wobble and vibration.

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:39 am

I belive you should put in 2 ounces for a Goldwing? Regards, Johnyy

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:20 am

Our Goldwing tires should have 2 oz of Dyna Beads in each tire.

1/2 oz is probably fine for trailer tires. I put 6 oz in each of my truck tires.

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby Wilcoy02 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:11 pm

2 oz in each of my motorcycle tires. 1/2oz in each of the trailer tires.

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby BAEZ4eva » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:37 am

I just put dynabeads (2oz) in both my tires yesterday. I STILL have wobble (35-50mph).
I've put on: New tires, new wheel bearings, new steering head bearings and new fork springs.

Now what??? :?: :?

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:45 am

BAEZ4eva wrote:I just put dynabeads (2oz) in both my tires yesterday. I STILL have wobble (35-50mph).
I've put on: New tires, new wheel bearings, new steering head bearings and new fork springs.

Now what??? :?: :?


Your "wobble"...is it all the time(35-50)...accelerating,decelerating,up and down bounce,side to side wiggle...

Head bearings usually stop the side to side wobble when decelerating in the 35 mph range...Called "low speed wobble"...

Other unusual movements can be attributed to shock condition...Not the springs,the actual hydraulic dampening of the shocks....
Misaligned rear wheel or loose swing arm bearings...
Worn slide bushings
Bent or misaligned forks(not parallel)...
Bent rim
Bent axle
I have seen them all on my 83....
The PO ran into a parking lot barrier....dinked the cast rim(0.18" out of round),bent one fork(0.30") tweaked the triple tree(replaced it),bent the axle(just a little),Continued to drive it and ate up the slide bushings(0.28" end play in one slide),damaged the hydraulic valve in the fork(no dampening even with #30 oil)...
Unloaded without the spring,the whole front shock was just sloppy on one side.
It made for a very interesting drive...
There was so many "little out of spec" problems,they added up and I had to replace the entire front end due to the minor damage to just one fork by bumping a curb....

Please don't forget...your riding 50mph on just 2 patches of rubber(small ones at that) ...they absolutely must be rock solid it there tracking...even a few thousands of a inch of uncontrolled lateral movement is unacceptable.

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby BAEZ4eva » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:27 pm

I forgot to mention that the front rim was replaced too.
I'm starting to think that it may be an incorrectly installed head bearing set.
If not, then IT HAS TO BE coming from the back. How do I find out? Please help :?:

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:55 pm

Attack the steering bearing question first....There's a "How to" about that...viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12367
essentially....grease,over tighten to around 25 foot pounds,turn the front end several times lock to lock to "seat" the bearing....loosen the nut and Re-torque to the book....around 10 foot pounds...lock it down and go..

As far as the rear...there is a procedure you follow "by the book" to lube/inspect/align and tighten the swingarm bearings....Follow it exactly....You should be able to download the info from the "Manuals" section....Here's some reading too..viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6333
And yet more..viewtopic.php?t=15036

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Re: balancing tires,dyna beads,wobble

Postby BAEZ4eva » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:03 pm

I will get on it first thing tommorow.
THANK YOU guys for so much great advice! I will keep u posted




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