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Tires

Postby Clarencechapman » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:30 pm



Looking at a Kenda tire for my 1100.
I do not know bike tires soooo.
I am looking to buy over the net to avoid the prices at a dealer.
I figured to spend $100 or so but found a Kenda K673 Kruz Motorcycle Tire at bike bandit for $60.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:03 am

I, too, will look forward to hearing any feedback about the same Kenda tire. My '83 Interstate seems to be running well enough (I resurected it after it had been neglected by a PO) to justify a new set of tires. The Kenda K673 was appealing; #1 - by price alone, #2 - didn't have straight tread-lines that I've heard make a tire "hunt" when riding on grooved pavement.

Anyone run them?

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Re: Tires

Postby Five » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:18 pm

I was offered the Kenda, but went with Dunlop 404s for just bit more. I got burned with a set of Continentals on a sportbike years ago (removed them and threw 'em away) and decided I'll pay a little more for what I know.
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Re: Tires

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:42 pm

I have to say, I am loving the Avon Venoms that I put on my bike last month.

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Re: Tires

Postby bigbrown » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:19 pm

I don't know that tire, however, I am running Metzler ME 880's and I got 28,000 kms (17,500 miles) out of the rear tire and I have now got just over 39,000 kms (24,375 miles) on the front tire. These are superb in all weather and particularly good in the rain. When you are riding on only two tires you don't want to sacrifice quality because of the price.

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Re: Tires

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:31 pm

I have read only good things about the Avon Venoms pretty well everywhere I've looked. They are a bit more expensive than pretty well every other tire I looked at, but like you said, tires are one thing you really don't want to skimp on.

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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:50 pm

I suppose I'll be a bit of a crash test dummy on this one. I ordered a pair of Shinko 230 Tourmaster tires for my '83 Interstate. After searching for rider reports and specs it appears that it gets positive reviews and has load and speed ratings that are certainly high enough. A couple Gold Wing riders (on other sites) reported satisfaction after a few thousand miles, but no one had actually wore out a set yet. It'll take me a while but I guess I'll see how they work for me over time/miles. Though not the only consideration, the under $130 price (Motorcycle Supestore) for the pair was appealing. I'll mount them myself. If they only go 8-10,000 miles they will have paid their way.

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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:05 pm

It seems like tire and oil threads always get beat to death on motorcycle forums, so I thought why should this one be any different.

My Shinko 230 Tourmasters arrived yesterday. The weight ratings (I don't have the actual numbers handy) are 600+# on the front and 900+# on the rear. My wife and I (not counting riding gear and/or baggage probably only weigh about 280-290#, so adding some baggage we'll probably tip the scales on a loaded bike a bit over 1000#. Shouldn't be a problem from that aspect. The tires are V-speed rated (about 140MPH I think), so PLENTY of headroom there!

I wussed out and took the wheels and tires off the bike and took them to a shop and paid $35.00 to have them mounted, and that included disposal of the old tires and new stems. Well worth the money. When I got back home I worked on something else in my shop, while I put the tires on a shaft to let them settle, to check balance. Long story short, the weights on the rear wheel ended up in EXACTLY the same spot they were on before. Must be luck or an out of balance wheel. The front tire took the same weight as the previous tire but it moved over about 6". Both tires/wheels could be let go at any spot and not turn.

I couldn't leave them just sitting there at that point so I started re-assembly. My wife announced dinner was ready about the same time as the rain strarted. I only had about 10 minutes to finish up before a test ride. Argh!

Well, as they say, stay tuned! I'm not a certified test rider but I look forward to scrubbing the tires in about 50 miles and will report back. ANYTHING new has to be better than the very old squared-off-rear and cupped front that was on the bike.

Oh....I almost forgot.... the Shinkos look GREAT on the ol' Gold Wing!

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Re: Tires

Postby detdrbuzzard » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:01 pm

for those replacing tires check the load rating of the tires
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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:01 pm

Good point about load ratings. Some of the tires I considered were a bit low in their load ratings. I did take a look at the sidewalls on the Shinko 230 Tourmasters I just installed, and they are rated at 638# Front and 906# Rear (at maximum inflation).

I did have the opportunity to put about 25 miles on the new Shinkos. Compaired to what was on my bike (old, cupped front and squared-off rear) the bike had a lighter, responsive feel. Just weaving back and forth in my lane the bike easily followed my inputs. On the fairly curvy road I was on the bike seemed to go into the corners easier, compared to the almost dileberate effort it used to take. I'm not suggesting that these tires are any better or worse than anything else out there, but I'm certainly pleased with the improvement new rubber made on my bike. ANY new tire would have probably felt similar. Took it up to about 70 MPH for a short distance and the bike was smooth and comfortable, so I guess they're relatively round, and my balance job was OK. I got caught in a light rain on the way home and had no suprises running my usual 50-60 MPH, but I'm rather cautious in the wet and didn't try anything unusual to challenge the grip. I look forward to some dry roads though, a few more scuff-in miles and then see if I can narrow the "chicken strips" a bit.

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Re: Tires

Postby Bluto » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:34 am

I just ordered a pirelli tire for the back of mine. $77.00 for it. Should be in this week we are installing it ourselves. Does anyone have any experience with pirellis? Guess at this point i wil have to find out for myself anyway.

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Re: Tires

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:43 am

I didn't even know Pirellis made tires in our size. I haven't heard of anyone using them before.

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Re: Tires

Postby emt613 » Sun May 02, 2010 2:08 pm

For what it's worth ,,,,, I had Pirelli MT 66's ? on my 750C.... Loved them...If you can get them in the right size I am pretty sure you will not be disappointed.

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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:58 am

Thought I'd write an update, with my impression of the Shinko Tourmaster tires I put on my GL1100 earlier this year. They're up to about 4400 miles now. The front is still in great condition and isn't showing any particular wear or cupping. Ride is still smooth. The rear tire's tread is somewhat flattening out, which doesn't surprise me, since almost 3000 of the total miles were either Interstate or mostly straight highways. I wish now I had measured and tracked the tread depth from new, but at the current wear rate of the rear tire's tread I expect the rear tire should go 8500-9000 miles before needing replacement. That's estimated and certainly subjective. I'm still quite pleased with the handling and manners of the bike with the Shinko tires. Considering the low price of the tires ($128 for the front/rear pair) I would buy them again. While my expectation of miles for the rear tire might be lower than other tires, I will be pleased with my bang-for-the-buck with the Shinkos.

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Re: Tires

Postby chiritc » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:41 pm

What is your opinion about the Kenda Challenger K657 (H rated) for rear use?



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Re: Tires

Postby Bluto » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:52 am

So far i am happy with the pirelli. I have 8,000 miles and tire still looks pretty good. so i will get more miles out of this tire then i have on either the Dunlop or the continentals.

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Re: Tires

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:57 am

I have just about 4,000 miles on my Avon Venoms, and I couldn't be more thrilled with them. With the Dyna-Beads inside them, they are silky smooth and still perfectly balanced, and they grip the road like they're sticky. I constantly find myself grinding parts of my 1100 on the road in turns, because the Venoms let me lean and turn that much more - even at highway speeds. After a four-hour ride through pouring rain, I can also report that they perform admirably in the wet, not the best wet tires I've ever ridden on, but quite decent.

Tire wear has been negligible. I would not be surprised to see well over 20,000 miles on these tires the way they are currently wearing.

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Re: Tires

Postby luckychucky60 » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:30 pm

Will the 83 Interstate aluminum spoke fit on an 82 Interstate that had a Comstar rim? Hope so my comstar was wallowed out and shimmed so I bought 83 from ebay. Awaiting mail shipment.
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Re: Tires

Postby lake_harley » Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:29 pm

I thought I'd drag this old thread up one last time regarding the Shinko Tourmaster tires I installed on my GL1100 last year. I just replaced the rear tire after a little over 7,000 miles. I would have gone another 500 miles before the change if I were riding solo locally, but my wife and I are leaving on a ride this weekend that I expect will be about 1100 miles and that would have been pushing it.

I was pleased enough that the replacement tire was another Shinko Tourmaster. Balance if the new tire was perfect, without any weights!

I expect the front Shinko will go to about 9-10,000 miles, judging by the looks of it. Treadwear on both tires has been very even, without any cupping.

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Re: Tires

Postby officerhoffman » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:54 pm

My GL1100 has
A brand new set of Dunlop 491 Elite II's
    Front - MR 90-18 71H -RWL #4069-84
    Rear - MU B16 78H -RWL #4071-95
I just got the Bike, I inherited it from my Father. It has been sitting for a number of years so unfortunately this brand new set of tires are toasted (flat spots) they both were manufactured in Feb. of 2000. Anyhow I'm looking at getting a new set of the same tires, My dad liked them. I'm looking at $279.99 (free shipping) for the set from Motosport.com. Any of you know of a better deal or a better tire?

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Re: Tires

Postby Bluto » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:52 pm

The pirellis i am running on rear right now has over 9000 miles on it and some life left. I just found it for about $82.00 front was a little cheaper then that. i just typed it in on Google search and found them. Not sure of site. good luck to ya

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Re: Tires

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:05 am

I'm going with the Avons this next time around, And I might even try out these dino beads, I have a question on the dyno beads, can someone reuse them after a tire change? or do they all wear out to nothing? Think about it, why not reuse them? Or would you just put in two more ounces of new??? Just wondering...

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Re: Tires

Postby eklimek » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:27 am

How do dinobeads work?

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Re: Tires

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:46 am

Don't know ask Fred or Wilma...Dino, Dyno....Whatever.. :lol: Those bead thingy's...No...I'm just kidding...Dyno beads are put into the new tire after it's been installed thru the valve and into the tire, I think as the wheel spins the beads find the correct location inside the tire and in a manner where it balances the wheel......I have a question on this subject as well, does a guy set the bead first then let the air out and and remove the inner stem thingy in the valve then put the beads in or do you just put the tire on and put the beads in and set the bead as you normally would..?
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Re: Tires

Postby eklimek » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:53 am

Love the Flinstone humour. But any explanation for the mechanisn of action?




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