Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!


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Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby hrobinson » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:14 pm



Hi everyone,

I was doing a visual inspection before going out for a ride this morning. I had started to check all my pressures (I run 38 in the front 40 in the rear). I saw in the tread area what looked like missing rubber. Upon further inspection I found 4 separate spots where the rubber had come off the tire. Needless to say, the bike went right back in garage, and I ended up taking the car to work :-(

Here are pictures of the damage. The tires are Metzler ME-880. This is suppose to be Metzler's best tire. This is not the first time I have had major tire failure in the rear.

First failure was in the middle of nowhere, the tire went flat due to a bulge in the sidewall. The frame wore a hole in the tire. I was not going very fast when the tire went flat.
Second failure was when I was coming home. This time I had my wife on the back, and again it was a sidewall failure (bulge in the sidewall). Fortunately the tire did not go flat and I disovered it AFTER I got home.

These pictures are from this morning:






I think its time for new rubber! I am thinking Metzler 888. What do you think!

Sincerely,

Harold Robinson



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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby SteveB123 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:36 pm

hrobinson wrote: The tires are Metzler ME-880. This is suppose to be Metzler's best tire. This is not the first time I have had major tire failure in the rear.



Those tires look bald, friend.
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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby hrobinson » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:15 pm

Hi Steve

Those tires look bald, friend.


Point taken. The tires are not new that is for sure, but not quite bald. I had hoped as I inspected them that this tire had a few thousand left in it. The ME-880s always ware like that on my bike. The point is that the tires should not have failed like this. I have seen motorcycle tires worse than mine. Completely bald, with the cords showing through by several layers.

--Harold

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby Wilcoy02 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:20 pm

I am on my third set of 880's. I got 16,000 miles on my last rear and still going on my front. I like the Metzlers for various reasons.

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby Baunix63 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:14 am

Seers,

one of the problems Metzler has in Germany, since they are producing in Brasil, too.
The ME is not the best tire of Metzler, it is 1980´2 technology, now made in Brasil. The Metzeler Lasertec is realy better and there are no problems in quality
I would prefer for my GoldWing the Bridgestone BT45, I have on my GL500. It makes a complete better riding, in comparison to the ME, that was on it before
But the size of the front wheel is not available as an BT 45.
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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby Wingsconsin » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:00 am

What you are seeing there is a tendency for the Metzelers as I know them.
Premature wear, splitting and sidewall bulges..
Currently we are running Dunlop D404's on the 1100.
Decent but longevity is still unproven to me.
BT45's are nice and Avon makes a good tire too if you can find the right size...
Shinko Tourmaster 230's are a decent tire for a LOW price but probably won't last long

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby thrasherg » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:37 am

I run Avon's on my Wing, have never had any tyre issues and would highly recommend them..

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby hrobinson » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:52 pm

All,

Thanks for all the comments, and as I can see I am not the only one having these problems. Well I have an update to this tire problem. I got a call from Metzler this morning. The call came from Rome, Georgia. I spoke with Derik, and he told me that they wanted to look at the tire. If there was ANY tread left on the tire they would give me some kind of credit. He too was concerned about what happened.

He told me to contact the dealer and tell them that I wanted to make a claim. I was very careful in explaining to him that the tire may be 3 years or older. He said he understood but if ANY tread was left they would give me a credit. The dealer would make shipping arrangements to ship the carcass back to their lab.

My plan is to buy a new ME888 (not the ME880). It comes in the standard 130/90R16 size. So I think I will give the new tire a try. I just gotta go get it now. Unfortunately Chaparral the dealer in San Bernardino, CA charges for the tire, mounting, the stem and balancing and the labor. Which would run me over $200. For this repair I would just like to have it done with out getting my hands dirty, but it looks like I will be taking the rear tire off myself.

Now to call and see if they have the new tire in stock.

-- Harold

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby Baunix63 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:08 am

That´s a picture of a Avon Roadrider of a friend of mine on a GL500 Silverwing after 500mls with correct pressure of the tire
Avon changed for a new.
But this problems happend to some other CX/GL500 riders, too.
It´s an issue in german forums of different motorcycles.
Michael from Bavaria

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Re: Remember to visually inspect your tires WEEKLY!

Postby hrobinson » Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:17 am

Baunix63 wrote:That´s a picture of a Avon Roadrider of a friend of mine on a GL500 Silverwing after 500mls with correct pressure of the tire
Avon changed for a new.
But this problems happend to some other CX/GL500 riders, too.
It´s an issue in german forums of different motorcycles.


Could you point me to some articles about this problem. I would be interested in reading about it.

-- Harold




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