83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem


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83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby Matrix110 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:37 pm



I have been searching and reading about people that have problems with the rear brake pedal not returning when depressed and they talk about just remove the cotter pin and slide off the washer and pedal. They never mention the spring!

I just purchased this bike and found the pedal frozen. I thought maybe it was the master cylinder but after removing the master the problem persists. I broke it loose with a hammer but after a week of blaster and beating it up & down with the hammer it is not freeing up.

My main question is after I get the cotter pin out and washer off and start beating the pedal off the frame shaft, is the spring going to be a pain to get off and on ?



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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby mytown » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:00 pm

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that I read where you can expand the spring and then put pennies in the slots between the coils and that this will facilitate removal/installation.

EDIT: Here's a link to a 1100 DIY article on this site that describes lubricating the center stand showing a picture of pennies in the spring slots, can't say if this will help with your issue.

http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=52

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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby Matrix110 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:25 pm

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure that would work for the pedal return spring as it's in a PITA place to get to and the coil is around a shaft, unlike the center stand recoil spring.

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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:49 pm

I don't remember the spring on the brake pedal being all that hard to get off and on - at least, it doesn't stick in my memory as such, it's been a few years however. :)

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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby Matrix110 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:51 am

Christ what a place to get to! Broke the cotter pin off so can't get the washer off, not that the washer has broke loose yet after an hour of tapping. I say tapping because not enough room to do anything else!

I'm sure this is a ten minute job if you are a Dwarf with small hands working on a bike that parts actually move!

I think I'm gonna have to get the torch out and I really hate being this close to the gas tank with a torch!

Maybe I would have more room to work if I removed the bags, rear wheel and the engine! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:17 pm

I'm pretty sure there isn't enough room to remove the brake pedal off the end of the shaft without pulling the engine. I know on frame up rebuilds the very first thing that should go on the frame is the brake pedal. I have seen where a hole was drilled and tapped into the brake pedal to allow for a grease zerk. Its been a long time since I've had the brake pedal off my 1100 but IIRC the shaft isn't a constant diameter but narrows down in the middle. If that's the case then you wouldn't drill into the shaft as you drilled into the brake pedal collar. A lot of work I know but once you break it loose being able to lube it will keep it from happening again.

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Re: 83 Aspencade 1100 Brake Pedal Problem

Postby Matrix110 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:47 pm

Well it's finally done, thank christ!

You were right about the pedal hitting the motor before coming off the shaft but it was real close. I wire brushed the shaft down to the metal and put a thick coat of bearing grease on it. I know I will hate myself for not taking the time to drill & tap for a grease fitting but I just wanted to be done with this.

From the opposite side through the frame I was able to hammer the pedal back on the shaft with a 24" 3/4 steel rod. It tapped on so easy it scared me! :lol: The return spring follows the pedal and slides along the frame so it was no problem at all. It now works like new. Amazing what a little grease will do.

My suggestion is any time you remove the master cylinder for rebuild you should take the time to clean & grease the brake pedal shaft while it still moves freely. If you wait until it gets like mine was, God Help You!

Thanks guys for the info!




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