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GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:01 pm



Hey guys and girls. I bought a 1980 GL1100 Interstate two weeks ago. I've used this forum from day one. I rebuilt the starter ,replaced plugs and wires. Flushed all fluids, rebuilt the carbs, derusted the gas tank, and new fuel filter. New battery was load tested and checks out fine. I put the key in the ignition and nothing, no click, no lights, no power. Check the dog bone fuse, the PO have a thin wire between the post. I found the in-fuse mod and have already tried that and nothing. My plug was pretty burnt up, so I removed the two remaining wires. Solder two new connectors, and plug them to the solenoid nothing. I have a digital multimeter, the solenoid has power going into it on the battery side. The starter side is dead. First question, where do I start testing now? What is the order and ohms to test for? I downloaded the manual and have wiring diagram,still lost? Help me...



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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:07 pm

How about the starter switch ?? if it's bad you'll nothing. does the head light go out? when pushed?
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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:12 pm

That's just it, no power for lights or anything. Does the solenoid power everything, I did the in-line 30a fuse. Shouldn't power at least be going to the rest of the bike.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:25 pm

its true,the solenoid batt terminal has a metal link to the screw that the dogbone fuse is mounted to.
Use your meter and see if the new fuse has battery volts on both wires.
It should be "hot" all the time.If there is no volts,the battery connection may have been reversed wirh the starter connection.There marked on the solenoid.
The link may also be bad.Ive actually cut the 2 red wires off the plug,soldered on the heavy duty fuse holder and ring connected the other end to the battery post.Effectivly bypassing all the screw and clamp connections.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:08 pm

I just tested it out. The battery side is 12.78 volts check the in-line fuse 12.66 on the hot side. Isn't this the side that send power to the rest of the bike, the red and red/white wire? The starter side has no reading key on or off.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:29 pm

the 2 big red wires should have continous battery power.
the starter lug of the solenoid only has power during cranking.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:31 pm

either way,the fuse is attached to battery power,the other end of the fuse feeds the 2 red wires.
Did the fuse blow?

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:36 pm

Thanks virgilmoblie for yourself quick responses. The fuse isn't blown. There is continuous power thur the fuse. Where is the next location to check for powe? The fuse box in the false tank or regulator?

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:39 pm

Do you have 12 volts on both of the 2 red wires that were attached to the start solenoid?

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Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:42 pm

This picture may help...Post one of your wiring if possible.....
Here's the original post...viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12522

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:47 pm

The 2 red wires on the solenoid...One feeds the ignition switch and the other feeds the regulator module...

As a side note...several inches down from the regulator,inside the harness,that one red wire from the start solenoid is spliced into 2 red wires that go into the regulator plug....It ihas never failed...
It's just a point of interest that the 2 red wires on the regulator are not the same 2 red wires on the start solenoid...

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:50 pm

I haven't figured out how to attach pics yet. I use that link to do mine. It's just like that.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:54 pm

Back to the 2 red wires....The red/white goes to the regulator module...
the solid red one goes directly to the ignition switch.....AND it goes to a 5 amp fuse under the left faring pocket...This is the memory fuse for the radio....If there is no voltage on this fuse,you have a wiring problem...If there's volts there,you have a ignition switch problem...then the next step is removing the switch...

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:01 pm

Here is a pic of the in-line fuse.
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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:13 pm

Yup,looks fine assuming that the red boot is the battery positive lug....You should have power on the 2 red wires all the time...even when the key is ON..

Just for clarity..the solenoid is used to crank the bike only...it does not provide power to the ignition switch.
It only clicks when you push the start button.

See if you have 12 volts on the 5 amp fuse under the left faring pocket...It's attached to the red wire too.It's the radio and clock memory power wire..It should also be hot all the time.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:24 pm

Ok I'll check the fuse out in the morning.So it either ignition or wiring? Thanks for the direction.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:23 pm

Cold day in Kentucky. I check the regulator rectifier, 12+ volts to both red and white wires. 12+ volts to both green wires with the key on. My goldwing has an aftermarket cd player in the left pocket. Where is the next place to check for power,how to I get to the pocket fairing fuse? Should I check the false tank fuse box first? Thanks for all the input.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:31 pm

zeegl11 wrote:Cold day in Kentucky. I check the regulator rectifier, 12+ volts to both red and white wires. 12+ volts to both green wires with the key on. My goldwing has an aftermarket cd player in the left pocket. Where is the next place to check for power,how to I get to the pocket fairing fuse? Should I check the false tank fuse box first? Thanks for all the input.


Whoa, +12 volts to both green wires? There's your problem right there. Green = ground. If you've got 12 volts on your green wires, that means that somewhere between the regulator and ground you've got a bad connection or broken wire. When you are testing, where are you putting the black test lead from your meter? On the frame/engine somewhere, or on the battery negative terminal itself?

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:40 pm

the green wires with no trace color are always ground.
There's your problem.
As i remember,the harness side of the regulator has the 2 green wired bolted to the frame.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:43 pm

OK, so green is always ground? I'll go trace them down. What are the yellow wires and is black from the ignition?

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:53 pm

3 yellow wires go directly to the stator...usually through the plug at the left of the battery.

1 small black is switched ignition.....

2 red wires feed power to the battery...they are joined together into one red wire and come out of the harness at the starter solenoid.

2 green wires are the regulator ground...usually you will find on the harness,those 2 green wires joined into a single ring connector and bolted to the frame..as I remember,close to the regulator.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:01 pm

Wait a minute.....Where are you attaching your meter negative terminal...to the battery or the frame/engine.....Could your battery negative terminal/cable/connection be bad?????

If it's completly buggered and you use the battery negative post on the meter,you would measure volts everywhere...even the frame would show volts...

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:02 pm

I found one green wire ground behind the neck. The others all look like there in harnesses. Should I be checking using the ohms setting? I'm new when it comes to the multimeter maybe time to pull the ole test light out. Thanks again guys.

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby zeegl11 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:05 pm

I do get volt readings everywhere, top of the carb , off the fame as you said. So, check my battery ground. That the cleanness looking thing on the bike , but it could be the cause?

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Re: GL1100 No Power

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:09 pm

if you put you meter on the battery negative post and read any volts to the frame the battery negative cable is bad.
Usual suspect is the ring connector thats pinched under the engine mounting bracket.




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