AIR FILTER


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AIR FILTER

Postby stevenstrack » Mon May 03, 2010 4:27 pm



I just bought a 1983 GL1100I and puchased an airfilter P/N 04-020 from Saber Cycle. The filter looks the same as in the DIY article except it does not fit inside the housing (the lid won't fit down on it). Do i have a altered airfilter lid? It sits flush on the bottom but appears to be about 1-2 inches too tall. Has anyone had the same problem?



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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby WingAdmin » Mon May 03, 2010 4:33 pm

More than likely the problem is that you bought it from Saber Cycle. They are well known for selling defective parts and parts that do not fit. You won't be able to return it either, they will scream and curse at you, telling you that you've made some sort of mistake, and that it's all your fault. Sorry. At least you learned your Saber Cycle lesson buying something relatively inexpensive. :)

I'd try buying an air filter from a reputable vendor, such as Cyclemax.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby stevenstrack » Mon May 03, 2010 7:05 pm

ok so i call another place and verify the height dimensions and sure enough it is the same as the new one that i received 3 7/8"(two different vendors). I tried going through my garbage to try and find the old filter that i had tossed...yuck. Could not find it but i'm sure it was a different style...it had deteriorated foam like insulation. So i'm thinking that I probably need 1/4 to 1/2" gasket to make the lid air tight. I did take it completely apart to verify i didn't screw something up. Took out the filter holder disconnected the drain lines and all to ensure it was fully seated and it is, I just can't believe nobody else has had the same problem.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 04, 2010 11:42 am

Wait, are you saying the filter is too tall, or not tall enough?

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby stevenstrack » Tue May 04, 2010 3:11 pm

its too tall. I took some rubber padding and made a gasket to fill the 1/4" gap on the lid. It appears to be ok (air tight) but that filter is just too tall for the canister.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 05, 2010 10:53 am

Wow, strange. The only thing I can think of is that someone put a smaller, aftermarket filter (the foam one you mention you had), and cut the sides of the air box down in order to fit it properly.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby guitarlos » Fri May 07, 2010 6:26 am

Silly question, but have you tried to rotate the filter by 180 degrees? I have a Uni-filter and it only fits in there one way. Just thought Id ask. Hope that does it.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby Five » Fri May 07, 2010 7:48 am

Don't K&N filters call for removal of some rubber gaskets when installing? This could explain the difference in height.
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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby wingd » Thu May 20, 2010 7:21 am

I've had a K&N for over 20 yrs and it was plug and play. Best investment I made on MC comsumables. SABERCYCLESUCK is your issue, and like wingadmin stated , you can't return it and yes you must have modified you bike. Yah RIGHT! JERKS! anyways, I would spend the extra $ on a K&N and the cleaning kit and you'll never need to get another filter again. K&N has gotten slammed on some forums, but I've had mine for over 20 yrs and the wings got 120+k on her and the clleaning kit is still over half full and I've never had a issue. Pepole say they cause the carbs and intake to gum up or injest oil from the filter and screws up your carbs. My take on that is, the filter has to be cleaned and oiled in the proper manner oryou'll have issues. Yes I can see someone applying way to much K&N spray oil on the filter and screwing things up. Like I said I've never had an issue. I guess I do it right. The best $45 i've ever spent. Probably cost a little more now but well worth it in my book.
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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tumunga » Thu May 20, 2010 8:00 pm

K&N man here as well. I have about 10,000 on mine so far, so it's barely out of the package.

As for you filter being too tall, you might want to make sure the rubber seal at the bottom of the air filter house is flat, and oriented correctly. I remember having that problem when I first changed the air filter on my bike. I seem to remember the rubber seal moved out of its place, and the filter wasn't sitting on it correctly, making the housing top not fit on correctly.
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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:14 pm

i got a question on this, the air filter that came with my old gl1100 1980 was round like on an old sports car. It isnt oval shaped like the ones i keep seeing on here. Will this fit in there?

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:58 pm

heres some pics for you to get a better idea.



and this one



As you can see the attachment on the intake is also round... not oval...

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby scratcho » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:24 pm

Tallman; That apears to be a aftermarket single carb conversion. Should be 4 carbs.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:04 pm

Oh? Pros and cons to this? I didnt even know.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:36 pm

So did a little research. Deff looks like a single carb. Read some reviews and they seemed to kinda go both ways. some said they are great and some said they take away high end performance. Kinda stinks. is it worth switching back over? and where would i find old carbs? im such a newb haha

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:08 pm

Ok, so you have a brand new filter that won't fit your bike right? So, I'm sure you will not be refunded by SC. so how much was it? and are you willing to sell it to someone who can use one? If you are willing to send it out in the mail you should get some of your cash back if it was me I would drop the price and eat the loss so it wasn't a total loss..

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:09 pm

I caN send it back to amazon for a .10% restock fee. It was only 15 bucks

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:33 pm

Yes you can, I was looking at ebay and there was someone selling a air filter for twenty four dollars and it looked like it would fit and everything the only problem was it was dirty and used..I mean dirty.. :shock:

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:28 pm

gah! what is up with that? Tommorow i am gonna take that carb off and attempt to clean it haha

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:12 am

Consider yourself very very lucky..Chances are you will clean it once and not have any problems after that..How cool is that, your a lucky dude..

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby tallman21 » Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:32 am

haha well thank you. at first i was bummed but not any more. too bad there isnt a how to on here on cleaning carbs but i found a post that goes over it pretty well.

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Re: AIR FILTER

Postby wittmann » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:49 pm

Hi, :)
If by any chance you don't like the single carb set-up on your bike I would be very interested in buying it off you, so that you could return the bike to its original 4 carbs !
Regards, :)
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