What did I Cook?


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What did I Cook?

Postby triketrash » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:45 pm



Hey Guys- I think my sprag clutch is going in the gearbox so the starter spins like 20 times before it engages the engine. Anyway, I was going to try the seafoam in the oil trick to clean up the clutch. I added the foam then started cranking, and cranking..... and cranking- oh come on, you ran yesterday, come on.... crank crank etc. Battery was starting to get low so I jumped it from my Geo metro. Crank crank, spin spin and then click. Click click and more click- no more spin of the starter- just a click at the relay. I know you can't crank these things indefinitely without burning up something so what did I fry?



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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:19 pm

Charge your battery the test probe the lug on the starter...If it lights up when you push the button,you cooked the starter or the engine is hydrolocked...
If it does not light,the solenoid may be bad....Short the 2 lugs with a screwdriver for a second to see if the engine will crank....It will spark so be brave...

Last...don't forget about hydrolocking....I spent a few hours working on the non cranking bike only to find that one cylinder was hydrolocked....

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby triketrash » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:34 pm

OK Virg I'll try that and get back to you. If I AM having problems with the sprag clutch, does it mean splitting the case to replace it?

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby triketrash » Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:36 pm

By the way, if I CAN spin the starter by shorting with a screwdriver, does this indicate the solenoid is bad?

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:17 pm

triketrash wrote:By the way, if I CAN spin the starter by shorting with a screwdriver, does this indicate the solenoid is bad?

Yes if it won't crank by the start button and the solenoid clicks.

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:41 pm

triketrash wrote:OK Virg I'll try that and get back to you. If I AM having problems with the sprag clutch, does it mean splitting the case to replace it?


No, it means making sure the battery is fully charged, and then push starting the bike (with some friends helping!) to get it running. Then ride around and get the Seafoam circulated.

How long did you wait in between start attempts. The starter motors have a very conservative duty cycle, they really need to cool off in between start attempts.

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:18 pm

triketrash wrote:OK Virg I'll try that and get back to you. If I AM having problems with the sprag clutch, does it mean splitting the case to replace it?


No.Usually a dose or two of Sea Foam will get it operating again.You might also try to push start it or at least get the. Motor turned a bit.

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:46 am

Or you can add a "cleaning" port to you bike for the starter clutch..
basically you drill a hole that is lined up with the holes in the clutch so you can spray a solvent right at the springs. As you turn the start clutch the holes in the clutch will line up with the hole you drilled and you can stick a tube in and feel when they line up.

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Re: What did I Cook?

Postby dingdong » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:03 am

Just adding Seafoam won't clean the clutch up. You will have to get it started and put some miles on it. Probably a minimum of 50 to 100 miles or so.

Edit: I thought this was going to be about you cooked for Thanksgiving dinner. :lol:


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