Engine removal


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Bynki
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Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:55 pm



Hi guys and gals. I acquired an 82 Gl1100i with a seized engine. The bike had been stood for a few years so I was expecting to remove the engine, but it turned out that cylinders 2 & 4 had got water in and had rusted the valves etc. Anyway, got all that sorted, plus new starter solenoid, battery and carbs stripped and refurbished and brum brum engine runs sweet as honey. But, and a big BUT, now it's running I've found that the clutch does not disengage properly. I have extended the cable as far as possible. I put a quart of MMO in the sump and run it until its hot, operating the clutch to see if will free off at all. Unfortunately it's made no difference. While on its stand I can stop the back wheel in 3rd gear with the rear break and the clutch pulled in and it slows the engine right down. In first and second gears it will stall the engine. I've read on this forum that it could be caused by a build-up of oil in the clutch housing and it could be that the hole/gauze filter to the secondary oil pump is blocked. My question is can the gauze filter/oil hole to the pump be cleared without taking the engine out? If not is there a good "how to take the engine out of an 82 GL1100"?

many thanks for any advice or info.



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Re: Engine removal

Postby dingdong » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:27 am

By gauze filter, I think you are referring to the oil screen. That can be removed and cleaned. It is located on the lower right side of the engine case. I don't think that will have any effect on the clutch however it may tell you if there is any clutch debris from the disks.
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Re: Engine removal

Postby RBGERSON » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:45 am

Try and actually run the bike for a few miles..50?? it takes more motion to get mmo/oil into the clutch. Just run her easy.
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Re: Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:33 am

Hi guys, thanks for your advice. I cant take the bike for a drive as its not registered yet, and I can't register it until I get the MOT test done. (UK rules I'm afraid). The only thing I can do is run the bike in gear on the centre stand. And yes I do mean the oil screen filter. Is that accessible without taking the engine out? It seems really bad that with engine running sweet I have to take it apart again.

Thanks again

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Re: Engine removal

Postby RBGERSON » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:52 pm

You can get it out you just have to spread the frame a bit..loosen the bottom mounting bolt, use a pry bar. It's only one bolt that causes the issue when you reinstall use a shorter bolt for that one. It is a tight fit but it does come out.
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Re: Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:02 pm

Thanks for the info RB. I'll give that a go and see what happens.

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Re: Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:55 am

Ok, latest update. Ran the bike on the stand in 3rd gear for over an hour, all the time using the clutch. No improvement. So I decided to take the clutch cover off and see if I could spot the problem and surprise surprise, lots of brass rivet heads. I dropped the clutch plates out and the "Plate B Clutch" part no 22322463000 found to be disintegrated. So problem solved, except I can get the pressure plates no problem, but the "Plate B Clutch" is no longer available. Anyone know where I can get one from? I live in the UK so I've checked places like CMS, Bike bandit and David Silver Spares but all say no longer available. Any pointers in the right direction would be most welcome.

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Re: Engine removal

Postby Sagebrush » Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:50 pm

The information in the linked article may have some application. Note however it is written for a 1000 not an 1100 but the solution to your problem may be the same.

http://www.wingovations.com/#/clutch-plate-b-problems/4539741861

If your finding brass debris I would pull the engine and check the scavenger oil pump for contamination. If its obstructed you could suffer more damage than you have already experienced.

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Re: Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:10 pm

Many thanks Sagebrush, thats it! Mine looks exactly the same. I'll sling it like suggested and put a couple of pressure plates in its place. I'll let you know how it goes.

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Re: Engine removal

Postby Bynki » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:38 am

Hi All, The latest is that I got the replacement plates, fitted them and just got it all back together. I used two metal plates rather than the plate "B" as I still couldn't get a new one. All seems well thanks to all the help I had from this site and it's members.
Hopefully I'll get it through it's MOT early in the New Year and be able to take her for a spin around the block. Merry Christmas everyone :D




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