Pig to start


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David-Mantle
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Pig to start

Postby David-Mantle » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:28 pm



Last week , for some reason . my bike decided to fire but NOT run. whenever I pressed the starter the bike fired but refused to run as it should. I checked the ignition wires - dodgy - and changed them. New plugs and caps. Even took apart the ignition unit at the rear of engine ( right pig of a job ) . Last job was to look at ballast resistor across coils. Shorted it out and bike ran perfect. Changed it with spare and now runs as good as gold.
I know this is not exactly the newest fix or latest problem but I feel that somewhere , someone , might experience the same problem and it could solve their problem. The ballast resistor is pretty much foolproof and trouble - catastrophic failure is VERY RARE - but this is often overlooked.
Just a thought and I hope it helps.


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Re: Pig to start

Postby littlebeaver » Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:52 pm

Wow, glad you found your issue, so the bike would not stay running and it would fire up, this is on the 83 you have right? that's a great find David.... :D

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Re: Pig to start

Postby David-Mantle » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:18 pm

Yes , fires with starter button pressed but dies when released. And yes . an 83 Aspencade with digital display-- 1983 GL1100AD.
Just hope it helps other owners. The ballast resistor is normally bullet proof and virtually indestructible with a life long with very few , and very rare , failures. Just once in a while things go t1tss up and this happened to be the nt1ts that went up.

) nipples =t1ts(
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Re: Pig to start

Postby 82aspen » Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:56 am

David-Mantle wrote:Last week , for some reason . my bike decided to fire but NOT run. whenever I pressed the starter the bike fired but refused to run as it should. I checked the ignition wires - dodgy - and changed them. New plugs and caps. Even took apart the ignition unit at the rear of engine ( right pig of a job ) .

via swingarm fuel tank re&re?

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Re: Pig to start

Postby David-Mantle » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:48 pm

No - dropped motor - easier.
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Re: Pig to start

Postby 82aspen » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:58 pm

yea found out about those parts and access after buying

got some early cams already and going with dual ignition setup, if the original fails then flick a switch and over to the backup at the original location

couldn't believe it when i found out what the deal was there, can't even lube the mech advancer easy ?!

take a trip and could easily turn into a money pit pig to fix as setup original, just to have access to easy to fix critical parts

thought going in thru the ..ahem, rear end lol was the way to go

guy told me his first wing/engine pull was ~ 10hrs, but down to a couple now

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Re: Pig to start

Postby David-Mantle » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:18 am

I have already relocated my ignition to the head using cams from 1975 GL1000. I just wanted the original setup sorted out while the bike is laid up for winter.
The whole idea of the dual ignition setup is to provide a backup for the ignition. In this particular instance the dual ignition aspect made NO difference to the starting issue. Dual ignition provides a choice of primary circuits . Coil related problems are not included within the dual setup unless one can fit another pair of coils just incase these die on you as well.
My original starting problem turned out to be the ballast resistor and the dual ignition would have not sorted this for me. Ballast resistors are truly bullet proof with failures being very rare and that is why I never went to it in the first place. It turned out to be the last thing I checked.


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