Faulty headlight switch


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Faulty headlight switch

Postby birkco » Wed May 07, 2014 5:14 am



GL1100 1981 - I have a faulty headlight switch in the Right hand switch assembly (35130-463-670 SWITCH ASSY) I have looked to get a replacement and come up with Part number 35130-463-670 has been superseded by Part number 35130-463-505.

On closer inspection it seems that Part number 35130-463-505 does not have a headlight switch.

I have cleaned and adjusted the switch but it will not last and have intermittent problems with the headlight switching off over a bump or two - bit disconcerting especially with the state of Zimbabwe roads!

Any ideas on what I should/can do to rectify this problem. :?



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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby RBGERSON » Wed May 07, 2014 8:04 am

American models didn't have a headlight switch they are always on after startup. If you check with some European dealer sites or eBay you may find what you are looking for... Honda may have discontinued the European style switches...
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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby birkco » Wed May 07, 2014 9:51 am

RBGERSON wrote:American models didn't have a headlight switch they are always on after startup. If you check with some European dealer sites or eBay you may find what you are looking for... Honda may have discontinued the European style switches...


Thanks for that, so does anyone know how to set it up so that the lights come on at start up and I can get the switch for the american market??

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 07, 2014 11:21 am

The US version uses the start button circuit to kill power to the headlight hi/low switch during cranking.If yours is the same way,you can simply bypass the failing switch.
The headlight would always be on with the key untill the start button is pushed.
If your start button does not kill the power to the headlight,there is a way to rewire it using a simple relay to kill the headlight while cranking.

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby birkco » Wed May 07, 2014 1:31 pm

virgilmobile wrote:The US version uses the start button circuit to kill power to the headlight hi/low switch during cranking.If yours is the same way,you can simply bypass the failing switch.
The headlight would always be on with the key untill the start button is pushed.
If your start button does not kill the power to the headlight,there is a way to rewire it using a simple relay to kill the headlight while cranking.


I am sure I am being a bit slow - but just confirm that if I get a new switch (american) and replace my old (european) one this would be a simple fix and have the headlight on. :?:

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 07, 2014 1:59 pm

You may not need to replace your stuff....Or buy anything.....The switch you describe is a simple on/off switch...It just cuts power to the headlight...Something we can't do in the US.
Turn your key on...while watching your headlight,push the start button...If the light goes off as you crank the engine you only need to bypass the defective headlight on/off switch.....
I assume that the hi/low switch on the left side works....

The switch that you describe that is bad...It is a main power switch that can cut power to the headlight....It's 2 wires can be joined together... ...you would no longer be able to turn off the headlight if the key is on....The same way as a US model...

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby birkco » Thu May 08, 2014 4:38 am

virgilmobile - thanks for the info.

With the key on and Headlight on, the bike starts without any change to the headlight, except dimming, it remains on.

So guess bypassing the switch will just keep the light on when starting, which will drain the battery.

I wonder if the PO had been in at the switch before :?: :?:

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 08, 2014 7:00 am

Its possible that the switch was a "fix" for a failed start /headlight cutoff switch.
If you can get a relay,I can direct you to a wiring method to get it to shut off while cranking.

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 08, 2014 10:12 am

Here's a schematic on how to wire a relay so your headlight comes on with the key and shuts off when you crank the engine...The relay is energized only during cranking by the starter volts..Otherwise it's contacts are normally closed.

This wiring and use of relays can be expanded on to include a relay at the headlight to increase available voltage for a bit brighter light....If your headlight is OK,this is the simplest method.

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby birkco » Thu May 08, 2014 12:46 pm

virgilmobile,

You are a star! thanks so much. I will have to take the diagram to a sparkie and let him sort it out as I am afraid electrics and me do not gel. :D

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Re: Faulty headlight switch

Postby virgilmobile » Thu May 08, 2014 2:16 pm

It should be easy.Holler if you need any more information.
Let us know how it works out for you.




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