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final drive low level

Postby billzbub » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:28 pm



Has any one experienced consistently low lube level in the final drive? I bought my 02 from a dealer with 35000 mi on it. It now has 65000 +. The first time I changed the gear lube, I thought the last one to do it had forgotten to refill it. next time I changed oil I checked the final drive fluid, it was low. Now every time I change oil, I refill the final drive. If it is leaking out the axle seal wouldn't the rear wheel be a greasy mess? Any thoughts?



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Re: final drive low level

Postby FlyBoy2121 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:38 am

I Billzbub

I have a 2003 and when I change the oil fina drive I was wondering if there was a leak.
The oil amount is minimal it is 120 ml, is not much.

I also change my engine oil and I change the final drive oil.

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billzbub wrote:Has any one experienced consistently low lube level in the final drive? I bought my 02 from a dealer with 35000 mi on it. It now has 65000 +. The first time I changed the gear lube, I thought the last one to do it had forgotten to refill it. next time I changed oil I checked the final drive fluid, it was low. Now every time I change oil, I refill the final drive. If it is leaking out the axle seal wouldn't the rear wheel be a greasy mess? Any thoughts?

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Re: final drive low level

Postby rtstone » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:00 am

Did you get your issue resolved?

I have exactly the same problem with my '02 wing with 25,000 miles.

2 yrs ago, I changed oil and final drive oil. It was very low. Sticking my finger in the refill hole, could barely feel any gear oil. Looked for any signs of leak and none observed. I refilled it with the Honda gear oil. Just considered it a fluke as the Honda dealer had changed it previously.

Fast forward 2 yrs and 2,000 miles, same story. My honda dealer said it may be leaking into the Boot (near transmission). I will inspect the boot today, refill with the Honda gear oil and continue to check level and inspect for leaks.

Want to ride it to / from Daytona Bike week - 75 mile each way trip.

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Re: final drive low level

Postby Mike 545 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:18 pm

I am afraid to ask this question; but for me, it is necessary. What is the final drive oil and where do you check its level?

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Re: final drive low level

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:52 pm

Mike 545 wrote:I am afraid to ask this question; but for me, it is necessary. What is the final drive oil and where do you check its level?


What..you worried about asking a question??? Naw.here it is.The final drive is the gear assembly that connects the driveshaft to the rear wheel.
I don't know the specs on the 1800 but my 1100,1200,and 1500 use SAE 80 gear oil .

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Re: final drive low level

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:30 am

GL1800 uses the same gear oil. Open the fill port, then open the drain port. Let the old oil drain, replace the drain plug, fill it up with fresh oil until it starts to run out the fill hole. Replace the fill plug. You're done!

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Re: final drive low level

Postby billzbub » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:20 pm

I guess I should have replied sooner...
I noticed oil pooling up near the kick stand after servicing the final drive, so I assumed it must be working it's way up the swing arm. I removed the final drive from the swing arm and purchased a pinion seal to replace. when I removed the pinion retainer, I found the pinion bearing had been assembled without a cage around the balls, and as a result, the shaft would vibrate and destroy the seal. i took it too the honda dealer to see if the bearing was covered under any sort of a warranty,
but the person who handled that decision was gone that day. The next day I got a call to come and pick up my final drive. They handed me a box of parts, an estimate for $400+ and a bill for $39.
I asked the guy what this was all about and he said we had to dissassemble the drive to see what was wrong with it... I said what was wrong was the bearing had no cage around the balls, I wanted you to look at the bearing and tell me if it was covered under warranty, I didn't want you to perform an autopsy. So he took his bill and I took my box of parts and left. I bought the bearing seals and all the other stuff and rebuilt the final drive. so far with about 2500 miles it is smooth as glass and no leaks. send me an email if you have any questions about the procedure

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Re: final drive low level

Postby wingfart » Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:52 pm

Considering the minimal cost of a complete new final drive assembly (usually includes brake disk, callipers and swingarm) from trikers, that might be the best way to go. Usually about $100.

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Re: final drive low level

Postby okstay » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:07 am

I bought a 2012 wing last September and as with all my new bikes went over it and checked the fluids at about 300 miles. My final drive oil was dangerously low. I filled the gearcase to the top of the filler threads. I have not been able to use the bike due to the winter weather. I will keep an eye on the oil level and will post my findings. It is supposed to be 55 degrees here in the northeast tomorrow. Hope I can start the spring riding season. My 05 wing's gearcase was full everytime I checked it. Thanks for the info

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Re: final drive low level

Postby Mike 545 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:09 pm

Is this an issue with all 2012 1800s? I mentioned this issue to a dealer, where I was considering a purchase; and he said his service department never heard of that issue.

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Re: final drive low level

Postby themainviking » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:06 am

Mike 545 wrote:Is this an issue with all 2012 1800s? I mentioned this issue to a dealer, where I was considering a purchase; and he said his service department never heard of that issue.


This is quite another issue. At about 60% of service departments, now matter what problem you bring to them, they will have "never heard of that issue before".
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Re: final drive low level

Postby okstay » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:13 pm

Well, now I have just over a 1000 miles on my new wing. I drained the final drive oil and it was as black as the ace of spades! I refilled it with semi-synthetic gear oil 75-90 wt. I will keep an eye on it and post my findings. It was very low when I checked it after I bought it!
I am averaging 43.5 miles to the gallon of gas. 2012 Ultra blue matallic

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Re: final drive low level

Postby thrasherg » Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:50 pm

okstay wrote:Well, now I have just over a 1000 miles on my new wing. I drained the final drive oil and it was as black as the ace of spades! I refilled it with semi-synthetic gear oil 75-90 wt. I will keep an eye on it and post my findings. It was very low when I checked it after I bought it!
I am averaging 43.5 miles to the gallon of gas. 2012 Ultra blue matallic


You must be pushing the wing around to get that kind of MPG, I struggle to get high 20's or low 30's!! What's your secret?? :lol: Mine is a 2004 model..

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Re: final drive low level

Postby wayne ian » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:51 pm

thrasherg You must have something wrong. I'm getting 38.8 or better with my '06 and I love to twist the grip.I thought these things must be getting low to mid 40's because I tend to get less mileage then most no matter what I drive.

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Re: final drive low level

Postby okstay » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:20 am

thrasherg wrote:
okstay wrote:Well, now I have just over a 1000 miles on my new wing. I drained the final drive oil and it was as black as the ace of spades! I refilled it with semi-synthetic gear oil 75-90 wt. I will keep an eye on it and post my findings. It was very low when I checked it after I bought it!
I am averaging 43.5 miles to the gallon of gas. 2012 Ultra blue matallic


You must be pushing the wing around to get that kind of MPG, I struggle to get high 20's or low 30's!! What's your secret?? :lol: Mine is a 2004 model..

Gary

I use regular gas and I ride between 1500 and 2000 rpm unless or course I am on the interstate doing 70. My 05 wing got a little better mileage than my 2012.

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Re: final drive low level

Postby thrasherg » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:08 pm

Thanks Guys, I bought the Leadwing after my R1 and keep the revs nearer 3000rpm when riding, was worried of lugging/straining the engine if I rode it with the revs down near 2000RPM. Guess I should try to lower the revs and see if that helps the MPG!! The bike runs beautifully but does seem a little thirsty!!

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