Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!


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Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby Kregeman » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:28 pm



Hello all, I'm in desperate need of some assistance. The problem is that my starter button just randomly stopped working. I've been trying to find some information on this problem but haven't had much luck. I have been able to jump directly from the positive terminal on the battery to the solenoid. And that works. It will turn over and start. I have also replaced the whole right side switch assembly. With starter button and kill switch. It just won't work! It will dim the headlight when pressed. It won't click. It's just nothing happening. Neutral light works perfect. I just can't seem to figure out this switch! Please help! Thanks in advance everybody.



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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby RBGERSON » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:37 am

Could be the clutch safe circuit is engaged..which will stop the bike from starting..try jumping that switch..or a break in the wiring from the right side switch to the solenoid. Check that with a meter set on ohms..from each wire end..switch and solenoid??
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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:43 am

Are you getting a click from the solenoid when you press the start button? I would have a look at that as the primary suspect at this point.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby Kregeman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:54 am

Thank you for the quick replies. How do I jump the clutch safety switch? And I have been having trouble finding my multimeter! I seem to have lost it. And there's no click from the solenoid when the button is pressed.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:56 pm

Kregeman wrote:Thank you for the quick replies. How do I jump the clutch safety switch? And I have been having trouble finding my multimeter! I seem to have lost it. And there's no click from the solenoid when the button is pressed.


On the switch mounted to the clutch lever bracket, there are two wire connectors pressed onto tabs. Pull the connectors off the switch, and use a small piece of wire to short the connectors on the end of the wires together. If this fixes the problem, then the problem is your clutch switch.

That said, the bike should start if it is in neutral, regardless of the condition of the clutch switch.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:00 pm

Yes but be warned,if jumping the switch works,it will also allow the bike to crank while in gear.
Be careful.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby Kregeman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:27 pm

Just tried that. It didn't work. I guess it is the wiring running from the plug into the solenoid. I just don't know how to go about checking those. It's hard to tell where they are running through.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:16 am

Any time you're trying to figure out what is (electrically... particularly) wrong with a 32 year old motorcycle, corrosion is a likely suspect. There has been a recent epidemic of dog bone fuse failures as the cause of a lot of electrical problems with GL1100's... not that I believe, necessarily, that the god bone fuse is the culprit in your case... it is something not to rule out.

Here's what I'd do if I had the same trouble you're having. I would start by removing the battery and placing it on "charge"....

While the battery is out, I would start to systematically remove every connector I could get my hands on (ONE AT A TIME) cleaning the connector(s) while inspecting for obvious signs of shorting or open(s) due to corrosion. Get some dielectric grease to coat the connectors with prior to putting them back together. While you're taking things apart and cleaning them, you may as well pull the leads off the solenoid (from the battery, to the starter and from the start switch), check all the grounds you can find. Also pull fuses ands inspect for proper connection, amperage and condition. Replace any fuses that don't look right or that may be defective..

Once you get everything cleaned, greased and put back together close to the battery box, I'd put the freshly charged battery back in and try the start switch. If it is dimming the headlight, I expect it has current to the switch. If the switch still won't start the bike, the next thing I would do is pull the switch apart (CAREFULLY) to inspect the inside for spider webs, gnats, rust, dirt, water... you get the picture. While taking the switch apart, pay close attention to how and where everything goes. Clean thoroughly, put a slight amount of dielectric grease on the contacts and put the switch back together.

If you get through all this and the motorcycle still won't start, then I would suspect there's an open between the puch button and the start solenoid somewhere.

Let us know where you are, progress-wise and if you fix the problem...
I am wrong as often as I am right concerning what is wrong with someone else' motorcycle without having seen the machine in person. Guessing with limited information, as to the source of the trouble, is sketchy at best.

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Re: Help!! Starter Button doesn't work!

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:04 am

You can pick up a cheap test light that can help.There just a buck or two.
No click from the solenoid.
3 possibles.
No power going to it when you push the start button
No ground path to the neutral circuit.
Or the solenoid is bad.
With your test probe grounded at the battery,locate the 2 small wires that plug into the solenoid (not the red ones)...turn on the key,press the start button...probe each one.
One should have volts when you push the button.The other one should not have volts when you push the button.
Both red wires should have volts all the time.
Let us know what happens.with this test we can guide you to the next test area.




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