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new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:42 pm



just bought my first goldwing, an 81 gl1100. its been sitting a while in the back of a garage, and have a few questions about unmothballing it.

ive bought several motorcycles like this before, but need information specific to the goldwing, i know carbs need cleaned, oil needs changed, and brakes need at least flushed, but what else needs to been done to these particular machines??

im sure i will be on here a lot in the next few weeks with questions like this, but please bear with me.


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Re: new to goldwings

Postby RBGERSON » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:46 am

remove and clean gas tank, change timing belts, rebuild brake masters?, change fork oil and maybe new fork seals??, for a complete list go here.. http://www.randakks.com/TechTip24.htm for a 1000 but about the same..
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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:35 am

i know that removing the tank is more dificult than most bikes, that will probably be the last thing i do, i dont have a service manual for it yet(its on order), exactly how hard is changing the timing belts?

the forks are solid, checked them out before i bought it(looks like they were rebuilt once before), very solid suspension all around.

i need a new battery before i crank it over(the guy got tired of putting money into it) he said the starter is fairly new(was replaced shortly before storage)

i have the carb kits in hand, gunna try to get them rebuilt before next weekend.

got oil sitting in the cylinders now, new plugs in hand, just need the new battery and the fuel system attended to and i feel its ready to be started.

as far as the brakes go, i checked them and they look ok, i drained the fluid and put in fresh, letting it set now, net week some time i will flush the fluid out
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby RBGERSON » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:06 am

doing the belts isn't hard but you have to be right on or risk bending a valve or holing a piston or both..here's the perfect how to.. http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3544
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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:56 am

the bike only has 15ooo on the clock, do you think the belts need changed or just checked for cracking???
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby zvacman » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:39 am

Belts don't really show wear to speak of. The rule of thumb is, if you don't know how old they are change them. It will be the best $50 and 1 hour you will spend on your wing. Date your tires too there is a post on here that tells you how. I thought my tires looked good, but after finding that they were 22 years old I changed them. The back one needs to come off to get the tank out anyway. This will also give you a chance to change the final drive fluid and inspect your splines and re-lube them.

Happy wrenching, Z

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:30 pm

the tires are 5 years old, i believe they will be fine to ride on for a month or so while i get funds for new.
i guess i will pull the belts, it just looks like a real pain from what i see.

hopefully i can find belts cheap, im up to my ears already on this thing, cash is a little slow.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby cbodnar » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:58 pm

Aftermarket belts are inexpensive compared to the OEM ones. Check the prices for these:

Aftermarket Timing Belts (from Goldwingfacts.com)

GL1000 & GL1100
Gates - #5119 or #T274 (2ea.)
NAPA - #250274 (2 ea.)
Goodyear - #40274 (2 ea.)

The real expense is replacing the two OEM belt tensioners (if needed). :cry:

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:06 pm

found a set on ebay for 30 bucks, and free shipping, also ordered a tool to fit between the radiator and cover for easier removal.

also ordered some new valve cover and timing cover gaskets, all together i got about 100 bucks on it, so im under budget so far.

hopefully i get these by next weekend and can fire this monster up for some holiday weekend riding!
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:33 am

got the carbs cleaned today, gunna reinstall them tomorrow.

also gonna check valve clearances, check out the brake system, put some oil into the cylinders, and maybe pull the timing belts and wait for my new ones.

one thing i wasnt expecting to see was a charred air filter, looks like it had a pretty bad backfire sometime, plus one of the carbs(number3) looked like it had a lot of carbon buildup inside(hope its nothing major)

coolant looked fine to run on at least for a little while, anything else im missing???
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:55 pm

well, got the bike home today, flushed the brakes out and everything looks and acts good, a little fine tuning and she is ready to rock!

one quick question though, i broke one of the 4 screws that hold the cap on the front master cylinder, put the 3 back in, but the 4th is broken off inside the hole in the resevoir, does the resevoir just lift off of the assembly(it kind of looks like it does, but i did not want to try), or am i looking at buying a whole new master cylinder?
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:46 pm

The reservoir just lifts off the master cylinder, and there is an O-ring in there that seals between the two. Most of the O-rings on these old bikes have long since hardened, and they are going to be pretty tightly fastened together. But yes, if you remove the three good screws, then work the reservoir up and off, you should be able to get the remains of the fourth screw out easily.

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:51 pm

cool, thanks for the info, but the next issue i got is the petcock started leaking when i shut the fuel off, but it looks like its riveted together, unlike the rest of them ive seen. are they rebuildable or is it a full replacement needed type thing?
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby zvacman » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:09 pm

you can rebuild or replace (ebay). Randakks carb kit comes with the rebuild parts.

Z

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:55 pm

Right. Randakk's kit has you drill out the rivets and replace them with screws. I think his petcock kit is part of his "whole hog" carb rebuild kit, if I remember correctly.

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:00 am

ok, i had a rebuild kit for a kawasaki on hand, so i put that in and it seems to be doing the trick. also, just realized i never hooked up the vacuum line that goes from the one carb(air cut valve?) i dont remember removing it from anywhere and i dont see where it is supposed to connect to anyone know, this bike is so close to rideable the bugs are slowly getting fixed and i want to go for a spin.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby RBGERSON » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:22 am

It connects to the pulser..right side rear top of the engine above the transmission above the drive shaft output point sort of..a tube sticking out of the top/side of the electronic ignition.
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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:38 pm

thanks, will check that out later, way to hot outside already to be working, riding maybe, but not working.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:02 pm

got the line hooked up, started the bike up, put on a helmet and went for a ride, the front brakes are still a little spongy, and the rear brakes tend to drag a little. my temp gauge was running just below the red line so i came back home and parked it, guess it is gunna probably need a new thermostat and possibly more(i did verify the fan was running). also after it warmed up good it seemed to idle a little rougher, almost like it was struggling for fuel.(it might need a new fuel pump)

also the fairing seems like it shakes an awful lot. it has a windjammer on it with some homemade looking mounts. gunna have to make something up a little more sturdy unless somebody knows where i can still get a new mounting bracket.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:49 pm

got the brake issues fixed, had to pull apart the rear caliper and clean, put it back together and it works great, front brakes i think needs new lines, bled through a whole quart of brake fluid and didnt get any air out, think the lines are getting weak and expanding.

havent looked into the temp, but i found out why the bike acted like it was struggling for fuel, one of the lines has a leak, gunna change it out tomorrow and throw on a few new clamps. thinking the fuel leak was causing me to run lean and heat the engine up a little, so we will have to wait and see tomorrow.

found out the fairing bracket is a vetter bracket, but someone has welded the heck out of it, but i think a couple of cross braces will take care of the shaking.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:36 am

got fuel leaks fixed, still have kind of a miss at idle, not constant just an occasional hessitation. im running the plugs i got with the bike so possibly it just needs some good plugs.

petcock rebuild kit and brake lines and a good battery and this bike is good for the long rides.
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:45 pm

just remembered also, the neutral light comes on when you pull the clutch in, and when the bike is in neutral, is this normal and how do i fix it??
others ive owned

78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:44 pm

jswag5 wrote:just remembered also, the neutral light comes on when you pull the clutch in, and when the bike is in neutral, is this normal and how do i fix it??


It's not normal, and is a symptom that indicates that the diode has failed (located on the left side underneath the false tank).

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby jswag5 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:12 pm

i can still ride the bike, but it is annoying, where can i get these diodes other than a honda dealer?

also got some pics to post

(yes, i have the lowers for the fairing, just have not reinstalled them after carb rebuild since i have not tuned it 100% yet. also have both side covers, the one is just off to hook up the battery maintainer.)
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78 honda cx500(in pieces)
82 kaw kz1000p(still own)
83 yam maxim midnight(my dads now)
85 yam maxim x
79 kaw kz900

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Re: new to goldwings

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:50 pm

You can use any high-current diode. I don't know exactly what the current requirements are - it has to be able to handle the current draw of the starter solenoid. I would be surprised if it draws more than 5 amps, so doubling that for safety, you could put this 10 amp diode in there for a total cost of 40 cents. I'm pretty sure Honda won't sell you a replacement diode for 40 cents. :)




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