going to try and rebuild my starter


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going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby halcombrick » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:24 pm



well guys i think i can say 100 percent i need a starter, here is what i done today to try and get more than just a click at the solenoid, took off solenoid, cleaned threads and contacts and checked the fuse, its good,cleaned my battery cables and traced down my ground, cleaned it, installed new, fully charged battery, just clicks but a lot more powerful and loud clicks, used large diameter wire and jumped solenoid, nothing, ran wire from hot side of battery straight to starter,nothing, so unless i have left something off i am going to pull the starter and try to rebuild using the how to on here,well i am gonna try the ole hit the starter with a hammer before i pull it just to see if it will crank, does sall this say bad starter as i suspect or have i forgotten a major item?


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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:49 pm

Was the bike in neutral? Is your clutch switch working?

Give the solenoid a bit if a tap first

what were the symptoms prior to having this problem ??


why not try measuring the voltage when you try to crank?

measure across the battery terminals (not turned on) = ? volts
measure across the battery terminals (ignition on) = ? volts
measure across battery terminals and press starter button = ? volts
measure from battery neg terminal to the positive battery side of the solenoid = ? volts
measure from battery neg terminal to the positive battery side of the solenoid = ? volts - pressing starter button
measure from battery neg terminal to starter motor side of solenoid = ? volts - pressing starter button
measure from battery neg terminal to starter motor post = ? volts - pressing starter button

what's the voltage on all those first - before clouting something with a hammer. :)

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby halcombrick » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:12 pm

i have no way to measure the current but to be sure i did have the battery checked just setting it was like 12.8v i think it was
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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:06 pm

Borrow a digital multi meter

a cheap one costs $5-$10...

lots of internet assistance on how to use them..

I'm no expert - but they make it easy to diagnose problems

having a battery showing 12.8 volts at rest is OK - but what it does when a load is put on it is a completely different thing.

Just last week at a rally - friend had his sitting at 12.6 volts - tried to start his bike - it dropped to 3 volts (battery was stuffed) - so the solenoid was clicking - but battery had no grunt to turn over the bike.

hook up a car battery or a known good battery with jumper cables (disconnect/bypass your battery) - will the bike still not start or solenoid just click?

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby halcombrick » Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:39 am

the solenoid just clicks, even running hot wire straight to the starter it will not do anything so, after getting brand new battery and still the same and with even trying to jump the starter and it not turning over i am sure thats the problem,im gonna try to clean it really good and measure the brushes, if they are in spec i will put it back together and then test before i install
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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby Aussie81Interstate » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:09 am

IF you believe the starter is the problem - then pull it out and give it a bit of love.

What has happened to the bike recently that it has stopped working ??

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby halcombrick » Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:05 am

it was like this when i got it
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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby tom84std » Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:38 am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Goldwing- ... 3a&vxp=mtr

It's not difficult, and if you have any questions plenty of the guys here have done it and would be happy to help with any questions you might have.

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:50 am

When you put the positive battery wire directly to the solenoid, did you get a spark?

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby halcombrick » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:08 pm

no, nothing, it just clicks really loud when i hit the starter button i mean it clicks so hard it shakes the solenoid but when running a hot wire to the solenoid nothing, its the same as when i run the wire straight to the starter just nothing, i dont get that every solenoid i have ever jumped at least sparks and i know 100 percent my battery is good its never been used plus to double check i had it ckecked
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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:32 pm

It's going to be filthy inside,, just a warning,,, :shock: I laid mine on a old towel...

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Re: going to try and rebuild my starter

Postby FlashBack » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:37 pm

I had the same issue when i first got my bike so i followed the How To on this site and was able to successfully rebuild my starter and has been purring along for the last 1 1/2 years. The tricky part is getting to the bolt under the shiftier. Everything had to come off the left side including unbolting the exhaust.

Despite anything else, make sure the bike is on the side stand when pulling and placing the starter back onto the bike. This is critical to get proper alignment of the starter spline and the cog gear on the chain inside the bike.




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