Fork seal question


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Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:42 pm



I know what you're thinking this guy asks so many freaking questions :roll: . I am going to be rebuilding both forks on my 81 Goldwing. I have ordered new bushings and seals clips the works. As it being the first time doing this would you suggest leaving them on the bike like in the how to article or to remove the entire assemble from the bike? My gauges (tach and speedo and everything) will be out as I am replacing the speedo and found a complete gauge set on line. The other question I have is on the cap removal. How do you remove the cap? I see the 2/4 idea to keep pressure on it but where are the bolts to remove them? Also do you need to remove both airlines or just the left one at the coupling? As always thanks for your help!
Ed


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Re: Fork seal question

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:19 pm

I found it easier to remove the forks from the triple tree when I did mine. That way I could rebuild them on the bench, with the parts laid out, instead of working underneath the front end of the bike. See: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16118

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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:53 pm

I meant to post this is the 1100 section so sorry about that as I have a 1981 gl1100. In your how to article you mention a dipstick. Where do you find one of those? I wish I had the clip like you have a have the darn clip. Thanks by the way for all you do on here it is a great help to a newbie like myself!
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:02 pm

sportsfreaked wrote:I meant to post this is the 1100 section so sorry about that as I have a 1981 gl1100. In your how to article you mention a dipstick. Where do you find one of those? I wish I had the clip like you have a have the darn clip. Thanks by the way for all you do on here it is a great help to a newbie like myself!


Have a look here: Looking for a GL1100 dipstick

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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:42 pm

Wing Admin I was talking about the "dipstick" you were talking about in the fork seal replacement section. I was not referring to the oil dipstick. It look like you were almost holding an allen wrench in the picture. Thanks.
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby RoadRogue » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:01 am

I think hes refering to this dipstick.....see pic below copied from step 100 of the how to article.....its just a length of wire to guage the level of the oil from the top of the fork tubes when compressed without the springs in them. 8-)


100. To fill the forks, I fashioned a sort of dipstick from a piece of wire, and a large syringe. The dipstick should be 239mm for 1988-1994 GL1500's, or 194mm for 1995-2000 GL1500's.('95 +)



Read more: viewtopic.php?t=16118#ixzz3VHeVNszm
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:20 pm

Got it. The "dipstick" I used I believe was a piece of coat hanger cut and bent to size. Any stiff wire will work.

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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:27 pm

Ok now for the next question. How long should it be for a 1981 gl1100I? Thanks.
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby tallman21 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:19 pm

hey guys silly question,

I am rebuilding my forks and i was wondering where i pour the ATF fluid into the forks... I keep seeing people with syringes that they inject into the fork somewhere, but cant i just unscrew the top off (where the air nozzles are) and pour the correct amount right in there? Im going to be using ATF fluid and from the looks of it i need to put 7.4 oz into each fork.

edit - looks like 8 oz according to this viewtopic.php?t=11831

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Re: Fork seal question

Postby RoadRogue » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:27 pm

The syringe is oten used because they have very accurate measurements printed on the side of them,there is no waste with them,and you do just pour it the top of the fork tube. If you put in too much the syringe makes iit easy to suck some back out. 8-)
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby tallman21 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:40 am

Great! thank you. I will have to look into getting one of those syringes! :shock:

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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:02 am

Sorry I have another question in regard to the fork rebuild. It says you can use Automatic transmission fluid in place of fork oil. Is it better to use fork oil? If tranny fluid is ok to use is there a specific tranny fluid to use? Thanks. Ed
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby RoadRogue » Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:59 pm

Atf is fine to use , its a light weight oil (5wt to 7wt). If you want a little firmer ride use 15wt( medium rebound dampening) fork oil, if you want a soft cushy ride ( low rebound dampening) stick with the ATF. Dextron III will work just fine. 8-)
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:43 am

When you put the new seal in do you put it in till it bottom outs? Or do you put it in just enough to clear the lock ring? Thanks. Ed
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby RoadRogue » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:34 pm

They are two and the same, bottomed is just far enough for the washer and snap ring. 8-)
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Re: Fork seal question

Postby sportsfreaked » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:09 pm

I got it. I'm just an idiot :lol: . Thanks for the replies. Sometimes I'm just dumb as a rock. All the medication I am on makes me think way too slow anymore. Thanks again! Ed


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