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Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:50 pm



HELP!!! OMG I have a busted knuckle and a busted lip trying to remove the tire from the rim as in the How-To-Article. I went and purchased the tools in the How-To-Article and have followed it to the letter. I'm having a problem pulling the tire off of the rim. I get one tire iron in and pulled and then I can't get another tire iron thru to the other side in order to pull the tire. I'm using plenty of armor all, hence the busted lip when the tire iron slipped off. Is there something I'm missing? Are there any tips and or tricks that someone can share with me. Ugh I'm so frustrated. Thanks for the help! Ed


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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:18 pm

hey Sports:

I know trying to remove the rear OR the front tire can be a real pain in the a**, I did mine using 3 wide flat head screwdrivers and on the ground. I took the first screwdriver and put it in one side of the tire between the bead and the rim, put the 2nd screwdriver in on the same side about 5 inches away from the first one, and pried the both of them up and inwards towards the center of the tire to break the bead. once the bead is broken, you can use all 3 screwdrivers, (or pry bars) to break the rest of the bead loose. once you have the bead broken all the way around on the one side, turn the wheel over and do the same thing to the other side, then shift the tire to one side and use the pry bars to go under and thru to the other side and pry the tire over the wheel from one side. you have to break both beads first before you can even try to remove the tire. you want to have a rag on the wheel so it doesn't get nicked or scratched from the screwdrivers or pry bars. harbor freight used to have a motorcycle tire bead breaker for bike tires, but I don't see it shown anymore, (glad I bought mine when I did), but you might still be able to use this.........its a bead breaker made for cars and other vehicles. http://www.harborfreight.com/bead-breaker-92961.html

hope this helps ya,

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:55 pm

OK I got the tire off finally. Now I'm just struggling with getting the tire on. This sucks :oops:
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:04 pm

sportsfreaked wrote:OK I got the tire off finally. Now I'm just struggling with getting the tire on. This sucks :oops:


get the tire beads wet with a little soapy water and do the same thing in reverse. try pressing the tire down onto the wheel from one side, then use the pry bars to pry the one side over the wheel, and the side that's not over the wheel yet will be a little easer to put on. just take your time and go slowly, don't force the tire onto the wheel. very important, make sure you line up the little dot that's on the tire,(green, blue or white) with the valve stem.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:55 pm

After a lot of words that a sailor would be proud of mission accomplished. I couldn't get the bead to seat but I will take that to a tire store and have them do it. I do have a question though. How do you put air in the tire with out the schrader valve in the stem? All of my air tools need the Schrader valve in to move the air. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to have a few beers now.
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:04 pm

congrats, glad you finally got the tire back on. trust me, being ex navy here, im sure I know all the words you used and probably made up a few of your own too lol. after you have the colored dot lined up with the valve stem, take the tire, (empty) and bounce it on the ground,(not too hard), in a few different spots to get the tire to seat on the bead, then pump some air into it to get the tire fully seated onto the wheel, then put the Schrader valve into the stem and fill it the rest of the way up. max pressure is 41psi, but I usually run mine at 38-40 for a smoother ride. when you have the wheel back on the bike, the tire will get hot and increase by 4lbs within the first 3 minutes or the 1st mile of riding. all tires do that, its normal.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:15 pm

What do you mean by the dot on the tire being lined up with the valve stem? It wasn't mentioned in the How-To-Article about the darn dot. Man what next ugh.
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:35 pm

sportsfreaked wrote:What do you mean by the dot on the tire being lined up with the valve stem? It wasn't mentioned in the How-To-Article about the darn dot. Man what next ugh.


don't get discouraged, there's a small dot stamped on the sidewall of the tire, it could be green, white, yellow, red or blue. that dot has to line up with the valve stem. its supposed to be a "balancing" point of the tire that the manufacture puts on it to make up for any "out of round" or im perfection in the circumference of the tire. I hope you also know that motorcycle tires are "directional" tires, and they show "front" and "rear" stamped right on the sidewall of the tire.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:38 pm

Well the dot is close to the valve stem. How do you move the tire once it's on the rim? I need to move it a couple of inches in order to get it lined up. Thanks. Yes I know about the rotation I have that right LOL.
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:43 pm

well, you have 2 choices here and the first one you aint gonna like. you have to break tire down from the bead before its seated and rotate the tire on the wheel to get it to the right spot, or, you can have the tire/wheel balanced which you should do anyway once its full of air and at the correct pressure.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:45 pm

Well I am using dyno beads for the balance. Would this be ok to leave the dot a bit off? Thanks.
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:48 pm

sportsfreaked wrote:Well I am using dyno beads for the balance. Would this be ok to leave the dot a bit off? Thanks.



uhhh, I think it would, but you might want to ask wingadmin about it just to make sure.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:50 pm

I should have paid the $35.00 to have someone do it LOL.
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:59 pm

sportsfreaked wrote:I should have paid the $35.00 to have someone do it LOL.



why? and miss out on all the fun? lol. look at all the experience you got by doing it yourself. the next time will be easer ;). you should have seen MY first time changing my rear tire. I had my bike hoisted in the air with a comealong chain hooked to a 6 x 6 beam in my garage, damn thing took me about 4 hours to do. had to remove the seat, saddlebags, shocks, rear bumper/trailer hitch and the lower rear fender,(which I never put back on), by the time I got finished doing it, I was too tired to go out riding on it lol.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby sportsfreaked » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:05 pm

I could have gone without the fun lol. My hands are not going to work tomorrow for sure. I have RA and this isn't what I need to be doing. I still have the back tire to do. Not to mention I busted the rim protectors I bought. I QUIT :o
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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby roadwanderer2 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:15 pm

omg, your doing both tires? I thought you were working on the back tire. im sorry, I feel your pain. your best bet is take the back wheel off the bike and take it to a shop and let them do the rear tire.your gonna have enough to deal with just taking the back wheel off the bike. some auto tire shops can swap out your tire, but they might say they cant because its not a car wheel. if they tell you that, all you need to do is have them put a block of 2x4 behind the wheel when its up against the tire machine to press the tire off the bead, then they can remove the tire the same way they do with a car wheel. there is an article in the "how-to" section for removing your rear wheel, you might want to look at that before you tackle it.

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:58 am

Many shops won't mount a tire unless you buy it from them,,, you will get lucky if they do,, if you want remove the wheel and bring it over,, I have some experience at changing tires, I'm out by the racetrack in KCK...I was just over at the Tandy company leather store off Nolan road today lol....Man I didn't see this post until tonight.. shoot me a PM if you need some help..no problem I'll help you out...

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Re: Tire removal from Help

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:47 am

Tricks,,, sanded down wooden blocks to keep the tire down in the lower part of the rim, vinyl siding, I use it to protect the rim while using tools, a small set of vise grips, I clamp it to the rim with some vinyl under it as a protector, the vise grips keep the tire from rolling around the rim when installing them. Lube,,I use stuff designed for tires from Napa....Note: if you are using dyna beads use just a little lube inside the tire as you don't want it to clump up the beads with a lot of wetness in the tire/rim....Use a good set of spoons, never screwdrivers... :lol: :lol: and I thought I was a caveman geez...I always put the shrader back in the valve to inflate...I have had a few tires not want to set I just push down good when added air, it will fill... The trick to removing a tire with ease is keep it down in the well of the rim... so place the blocks (4) on the underside of the tire between the rim and tire as you pry around the top side.. Bam no problems.. Vise grips need to be the small kind...It's you third hand and it works well... You can heat the siding to fit the rim nicely, better than paying for stuff. You can just put duct tape over the 3/4" wood blocks




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