IDLE JETS


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IDLE JETS

Postby auctioneeral » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:26 am



1981 IDLE JET QUESTION.
I know the all the holes on side of the jets are open cleaned. But is there suppose to be a opening in the center of the jet. another words I could run a wire thru the jet from one end to the other. The reason I ask is I have all 4 jets here and can not run a wire thru them. I have had these soaking for a week now. By running wire they all go the same distance and stop. So the clog is at the same spot on all 4jets.
Picture will show with a little wire were the clog is.
I have tried carb cleaner,PB, boiled in water, gallon can of carb cleaner, peroxide, drain cleaner,compress air nothing.

I pulled the 4 idle jets from another working carb rack which idles and them 4 jets are clog in the same area.
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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby sportsfreaked » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:14 pm

I will ask are you sure that it's suppose to go all the way thru? It would seem odd that 8 idle jets would all be clogged in the exact same place. I have no idea if they are or are not suppose to go all the way thru I'm just throwing it out there. Best of luck. Ed
Thanks to all who answer and help. It is greatly appreciated!
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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:41 pm

Yes is the answer, there is a hole the same diameter as the side holes right down the center,,, It's a wonder the bike idled at all with it clogged up,, patience I used a wire off a small wire brush, clamp that wire to a set of small vise grips giving you a good poker,, sharpen the tip of the wire by cutting it at a sharp angle wire side cutters
then poke easy and turn, you will break thru,, be careful with this now,, you don't want to screw up the jet, poke easy and take your time....I did all four on mine....Just like that,,If you use a small guitar string put a tip on it..You are going to amaze yourself when you put it back on the bike after these have been cleaned up,,, New engine man..Make sure its the same as the others, the opening when done,, I looked thru it at the sky and you can see the nice little hole...Yep...Glad you got them out without issues.....Scary stuff...Note: I didn't think I'd get through after 5 minutes but then bingo it went thru..If you know someone with a guitar cut a inch off the top as they don't use it anyway and put it in the vise grip..Putting the point on it is the trick..But make sure the wire fits the side holes first, don't want to use a wire too large..Ed it's not odd at all when the bike sits for years, its very common,,, I'd say half the 80's and 81's running around have some clogs in their idle jets and they don't know it...Seafoams not going to clean them,,, or carb cleaner, you have to go get em.. and do this...Some use compressed air,, I did that too..

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby auctioneeral » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:03 pm

Thanks littlebeaver
I got a little day light thru 2 of the jets. Your saying the center hole is the same size as the side holes.

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:10 pm

Pretty sure yes.. Blow it out now with air.. Poke and blowout, Oh man,, your gonna love the idle now..When you get thru look thru it into a bright background and you will see a perfect hole...Now you know what I mean about patience... :shock: :D the bike will guide away from a stop now, release the clutch and it will start going very smoothly, especially if you sync. the carbs well. A sign of clogged idle jets is a chatter when starting out, not smooth in other words...I guess that's why they call them slow jets... :D When done tap them in easy and you will feel it bottom out just by the sound....Check the float heights while your there, bench test the carbs to make sure the needle jets are closing....RB has a good write up on that..This is funny.. It's hard to sync. the carbs when the idle jets are clogged to hell...lol :lol:

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby auctioneeral » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:00 pm

These jets came out of the first bike I got which I posted tapping rattleing noise. Which so far was 2 bent valves and then I find yesterday about clutch disc having a cleanance in between them, which come to find out missing a circlip to hold washer on shaft so disc did n't have all the room. So I'm slowly getting there. Clean,lap valves new valve seals, replaced all water o_rings on motor,therm stant, new timing belts, and now the carburetors.
Here is what engine starter out sounding like when I got it. Been sitting awhile.



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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:16 pm

Mine didn't have that bad tapping,,, but it sounded like chitty chitty bang bang... :lol:

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:32 pm

You can also use a TINY drill bit, turned with your fingers to clear the blockage.
I am wrong as often as I am right concerning what is wrong with someone else' motorcycle without having seen the machine in person. Guessing with limited information, as to the source of the trouble, is sketchy at best.

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:56 pm

You sure can+1 .....

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:06 pm

I'd remove and inspect the PG too.

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby auctioneeral » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:20 pm

I got the first set of 4 idle jets open completly. Here is how i did it. Soak in CLR 6 hours. And then soak in cup of water with wifes dishwasher soap ( FINISH POWERBALL TABS they came out of the soak clean as brass. Then I brought a torch tip cleaner and took the ends of the tip cleaner and cut about 1/4" off so it was the file part of the rod, and just get pushing and turning by hand like a drill and got thru, and moved to the next size and on.
Going to soak the other 4 idle jets now and get them uncloged.
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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:30 pm

They look really nice and clean. I imagine the engine will run significantly better now.
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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby auctioneeral » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:34 pm

I hope so. Can"t run any worse then when I brought it and motor was rattling and clacking.

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Re: IDLE JETS

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:08 pm

You are the man... those look cleaner than clean... Man alive... :lol: I bet your are amazed at how they got clogged like that... :D If you look throught them, you should see a perfect hole,, You never want to increase that hole size or damage it.. I learned something new too... Dishwashing tablets you say? CLR lol Maybe you should soak the main jets too, I mean wow, that works great.. Question ,Which one got it clean like that the CLR or the dishwashing tablets? I have Finish tablets too...LOL :lol: Badass man...




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