New guy needing some wisdom from you


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geezer2
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New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby geezer2 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:30 pm



Hi guys, I'm nearing retirement and looking for a 2nd. bike. The Mrs. isn't interested in riding on the back of my 05 FXDC. I recently found this on the local CL and wanted some input from seasoned GW riders and owners. I would appreciate your thoughts and input. Thanks, Geezer
http://yakima.craigslist.org/mcy/4977501194.html

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Mh434 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:01 pm

A Goldwing is an excellent choice. My wife couldn't stomach sitting on the back of my Kawasaki Concours anymore, and was at the point of saying she was done with riding. Then, she started talking about the 'Wing I used to have, and how gloriously comfortable it was. Long story short - we now have a GL1500, and she is a VERY happy woman - always suggesting going for a ride, joining other riding groups, etc.

As far as I can tell from the pics, that GL1100 looks beautiful (I might be a tad biased - it looks exactly like my old GL1100!) and, although I'm not up to date on 1100 prices, that does seem like a pretty sweet deal to me.

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Fri May 01, 2015 3:15 am

Some good info on this subject here: http://www.goldwingfacts.com/used1100.htm
A little homework can help avoid disappointment.
The bike looks very nice, and I hope it works out for you. Regards, Johnny

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby RBGERSON » Fri May 01, 2015 8:32 am

Price seems a bit high maybe the extras make up for it??? They sell for around 2,000 in AZ in good shape. But if you are looking for a soft ride the 1500 is much nicer..I'd stick with 97 to 2000 models to avoid the 4th gear issues. I had an 1100 for years and it is a great bike just not a plush as the 1500's.
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby geezer2 » Fri May 01, 2015 1:51 pm

Thanks for the input guys. I went and looked at her.... a little more info on it. Has 44024 miles, no tabs, new battery, riding coat, chaps, helmut. No proof if the timing belt has been done or not. Extra seat (haven't seen it). Owners manual, original tool kit. Needs a front tire. Started bendix is weak (how tough is that to get to?) Overall the bike is in very good condition and sounds like a Singer. lol After pointing out said questions, he said he was negotiable. Also said the wife & I could take it for a ride. If it fills our needs... I'm thinking 2500.

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Mh434 » Fri May 01, 2015 4:17 pm

Starter's pretty easy to do - most of the balky Bendixes I've worked on needed nothing more than clean up & lube to work perfectly again. While you have it out, change the starter brushes. It's dirt simple, dirt cheap, and will save you from starter issues for years. IIRC, brushes are a fairly common problem in the 1100's, so being proactive is wise.

I believe there's a how-to on doing the timing belt, here. I've done belts on my 1500, but never did them on my 1100, so I can't offer much advice beyond this - if you don't KNOW they've been done...DO THEM! The results of a belt failure are too horrific to contemplate... :shock:

Once the're done, you can forget about them for many years to come.

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Wilcoy02 » Fri May 01, 2015 9:54 pm

33 is a tad high in my opinion.

I can see the speakers so it has some kind of sound. Does it have a cb? If so find a friend with cb and make sure it sends and receives.

Ask if the springs have been changed. Take an air gauge and see if any air is in the front forks. The cap is under the handle bars on the left. Check air in the rear shocks..Check it by taking the right side cover off and there is an air valve there. front maybe 10 # and rear 20#

It looks like a nice clean bike. Since it is the start of riding season you will pay a little more.

Try to get the maintance records if available or any receipts he might have.

If you are comfy with 25 (which seems reasonable to me) offer him 24 and end up at 25.


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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Old Fogey » Fri May 01, 2015 10:17 pm

No belts change history means an immediate change. These are interference engines, meaning if a belt lets go you are going to get engine damage.

The starter clutch overhaul; Not a Bendix drive. To do it properly it's an engine out job. It's a sprag clutch located in the back of the alternator rotor.
Nice looking, obviously well cared for bike. My guess is that Father has not been riding it much recently. You may find that an oil change and putting some miles on it frees up the starter clutch.
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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Earl43P » Thu May 07, 2015 8:41 am

Around here, that's a $2000 motorcycle, $2200, tops. Earl would offer $1800 and walk away, then call him a few days later. (I paid that much for a 93 1500 that needed work).

The sprag clutch will usually free up and work right with some snake oil (Seafoam, ATF, etc) in the crankcase for a few easy miles, drain hot, followed by fresh oil/filter.

I had been running 15W40 Rotella in my 82 for years and my starter clutch starting doing that after a short ride to the store, then restart. Admittedly, it was overdue for new oil, but mine burns ~1 quart in 300-400 miles so it's always getting some fresh oil..... I put 5W-20 synthetic in it and it cleared it right up. I used Seafoam right before the oil change to thin the oil. Another time I used the Berrymans B12 in the oil and stayed with the 15W40. The problem was lessened, but it still occasionally free-wheeled.

My advice, for that amount of $, is look for a 1500 (WITH reverse). I see them often in the $3500-4000 range. I love my 82, but the 93 is SO much better in every way except hopping on quickly and sporting around town like a juvenile delinquent. Of my three, the wife LOVES the 1500. Now she wants ARMRESTS, lol.

I was seriously looking at 1200's when I bought the 93. I'm glad I lept over that generation even though I never rode one.

Examples:
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/4985125831.html
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/4929886262.html
http://norfolk.craigslist.org/mcy/4921983434.html
and an 83 for comparison:
http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/mc ... 34453.html
When all else fails, RTFM!

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Mh434 » Thu May 07, 2015 1:34 pm

When I responded, I was thinking about Bendixes (YOU got me started down that road! :D ) but, as the rest have pointed out, GoldWings don't have 'em. I'm another one who believes that the Seafoam treatment in the oil (prior to oil change) will probably free up the sprag clutch & get it working like new again.

As for prices, well, although I'm not far away from you (probably not much more than 100 miles, as the crow flies), I'm in Canada & prices here are VASTLY different from what others are quoting. A good GL1200 goes for $4000-$5000, and a GL1500 starts at $6500 and up. Even OLD, high-mileage Gl1800's start at the $11,000 mark. So...the price on the one you found seems on the mark. There are places in the US where GL1200's and GL1500's go for very little money but, just because that's so, doesn't mean their prices are representative of what you can find one for in your area. If you're willing to travel a long distance, you may be able to find one considerably cheaper, but then again, the one that's near you is available for close-up examination.

I'd suggest going through Craigslist etc. in your area, and try to get a feel for local prices. This one may be high, or it may be quite reasonable. DO factor in some critical up-front maintenance costs, though - particularly (as others have said) timing belts. They're fairly cheap to do (fiddly, though) but absolutely mandatory for the health of the bike.

Sorry for the run-on, but I'd like EVERYONE to have a GoldWing that they're happy with!!

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby geezer2 » Thu May 07, 2015 2:07 pm

Thanks for all the input guys, I really appreciate it. I wound up buying an 82 GL1100A for $2000.00. It's in very nice shape, everything works. And supposedly 43,000 miles. All original factory accessories are with it, tools, air gage, etc. Very comfortable and momma likes it. Which as we all know... if momma's happy. hehe

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Mh434 » Thu May 07, 2015 3:26 pm

Good job! And, you're right - happy wife=happy life!

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Thu May 07, 2015 5:53 pm

We love Pics! Regards, Johnny

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Re: New guy needing some wisdom from you

Postby geezer2 » Fri May 08, 2015 9:20 am

Of course we do!! Here they are for your viewing pleasure. lol
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