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pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:47 pm



ok so i changed my stator now engine will not start cranks over so i am now down to pulse generator not installed correctly may have lost pin what question i have is i cranked over the engine a bunch of times does it matter that i cranked over engine with pg in wrong position ? is it like a cars distributor if you crank it over it will be out of timing ? thats my worry when i reinstall pg does engine #1 piston need to be top dead center like a car or can i just install rotor into its position which i see fit in two ways does that matter i am removing engine to install so want it to be rite after 3 try s no luck this will be my 4th time removing engine and no i dont want to remove swing arm thats more work then removing engine and requires a special socket i dont have does anyone have a picture of pin im missing and its placement it does not show me in the honda manuel or the clymer id really appreciate any help from someone who had delt with this problem thanks in advance



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Re: pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:48 pm

for got to mention is a 82 gl1100 engine thanks again

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Re: pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Fri May 01, 2015 10:54 am

ok so i guess none of you know the answer either lol

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Re: pulse generator

Postby Rob H » Fri May 01, 2015 1:54 pm

I am also interested in the solution, I am sure someone will give you some idea soon!

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Re: pulse generator

Postby RoadRogue » Fri May 01, 2015 2:24 pm

chargincharlie wrote:ok so i guess none of you know the answer either lol

Have a little patience, its only been 14 hrs since you asked this question 8-)
Ride safe, Todd
Over night campers welcome

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Re: pulse generator

Postby Rob H » Sun May 03, 2015 8:24 am

Hello there

Have you made any progress with this?

Rob

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Re: pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Sun May 03, 2015 9:13 am

No sir no reply's yet. And searched all over the Internet. No luck. And does not show Mutch in repair manuals either Clymer or Honda

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Re: pulse generator

Postby virgilmobile » Sun May 03, 2015 11:15 am

Just read this.
The pin.as I recall,if the pin is in place,the pulse lobe mechanism will only set in one position.the correct one.if it's missing,you may still get a spark,it just won't be at the correct time.No harm.It just won't run.
You can get to it without pulling the engine.
The pin bottoms out in the shaft and sticks out about 3/16". It does not go all the way through.The spark advance plate has a key way that the pin sets in.

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Re: pulse generator

Postby PRACTIKALGUY » Wed May 06, 2015 11:46 pm

I had a very similar on my '83. I had to remove the rear case to replace the rotor shaft. You're right, Clymer doesn't explain it well, so, when I put the cover back on, I didn't make sure the pulse gen pin was lined up with the matching slot coming out the block. This ensures that it will only fire one way. After, obviously, not starting, I pulled the engine again and the PG pin was totally sheared off when I put the rear cover back on...God knows how it was firing. After getting another PG shaft, I was very careful to have both the pin and notch at 12 o'clock. If you use a small flashlight, you can look down from the top and see the two mate up as you're pushing the cover on. After that, she fired right up.

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Re: pulse generator

Postby littlebeaver » Thu May 07, 2015 12:04 am

IT's strange because I didn't know the answer to this question as I was bewildered yet again,, I have never dealt with a broken pin before so I have not encountered this yet.... I have completely rebuild the canister off of a automobile to work on the goldwings PG but I still was unsure of the answer,, I would think that the pin only goes in one way and the timing would be fine but I have never done it.... Wow.... :shock: insert it and tell us all about it...I started mine up with the swingarm off and the back cover too just because I like seeing things function....Seriously I was testing my vacuum advance.... My modified one... :D

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Re: pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Thu May 07, 2015 12:10 pm

ok so today i took out engine i believe i see the pin sticking out of shaft hopefull its on correct know ok so another question the rotor top can fit on the shaft and it goes between two slots on either side and the mechanism the springs back and forth how does the rotor sit on it ?it can fit on either of the slots which is like a half turn either way

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Re: pulse generator

Postby littlebeaver » Thu May 07, 2015 12:30 pm

Man you do ask some hard questions,,, I have heard of this before, the bike wasn't running correctly because the unit was 180 degrees out which means I guess it goes around half a turn to be repositioned, I don't know how to determine which is which or how it goes,, perhaps someome else will know by experience,, I guess you have a 50/50 chance of getting it on proper unless someone has the correct answer...You have done a lot of work on it so far, wow... Ibet your gonna be happy to get it figured out...I wish I could help more but I have not dealt with this pin issue before.. :shock: If this was me I would put the pin in and put everything back together as if new,, fire it up, if it runs good you did great if it runs terrible I should pull the swingarm off and go turn that sucker when it should be and fire it up again with the swingarm off still and the back cover of the PG...

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Re: pulse generator

Postby chargincharlie » Thu May 07, 2015 2:43 pm

ok so took it all apart the whole shaft is spinning so i guess something is broke if i can spin it by hand even when i put rotor on the pin the whole shaft spins around pulled cover off the shaft is spinning i putting another engine in im tired of messing with it i fhis engine dont part im going to start parting out all 4 bikes and save my cash for a newer bike




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