GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement


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GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Mon May 04, 2015 2:44 pm



Hi Guys (and Gals). Replacing my front wheel I see and feel the axle holder studs are stretched and I don't feel comfortable torquing too much. They feel like they won't take it. Not sure on torque, but I would guess at least 25 ft-lbs, maybe more, is needed. So first question: what is the torque for these studs? I have a 1983 Apsencade if that makes a difference. Second, does anyone know where I can get replacements? And/or what strength of bolt they are? Thanks for your help.


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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby sportsfreaked » Mon May 04, 2015 3:19 pm

The front axle holder is 15 foot pounds and the front axle nut is 42.
Thanks to all who answer and help. It is greatly appreciated!
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby RBGERSON » Mon May 04, 2015 3:21 pm

BOLT, STUD (8X50)
92900-08028-3B at honda
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Mon May 25, 2015 1:07 am

Thanks. The guy at Honda insisted to get the axle holder nut torqued up to 24 ft/lb. Although I mentioned I heard only about 15 for the 83 GW specifically (earlier 1100s seem to have a higher torque). Can anyone give me a reference? He had his manual out and it seemed to not mention torque at all. Strange and annoying.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Mon May 25, 2015 5:35 am

Here is a handy page: http://www.salocal.com/goldwing/gl1000_torque.htm
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Mon May 25, 2015 9:47 am

Thanks, that link does say 25 ft-lbs for 1980-1983. But, it is someone's self made web page. Tough to rely on it as the absolute truth. Does anyone by any chance have a scan of a Honda document? Much appreciated.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Mon May 25, 2015 10:35 am

According to my Haynes manual the torque is 22- 29 lbf ft. Or 3.0 - 4.0 kgf m. It also states to start with the forward nut.
Hope that helps. Regards, Johnny

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Mon May 25, 2015 12:53 pm

That's wonderful. Thanks guys. He torqued it to 24 with a Snap On wrench, so bang on. I watched him do it and I must admit it feels like a lot for a #8 stud, but at least it's on snug.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 26, 2015 12:06 pm

The Honda service manual shows 25 ft-lb for 1980-82, and 13-18 ft-lb for 1983:

1980-82 Axle Holder Nut
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Tue May 26, 2015 12:15 pm

Wow, thanks, and man is that weird!?! They seem to look the same on both bikes. I know the wheels are different, maybe that's part of it. I wonder if 24ft-lbs is too much or now that it's there maybe just leave it until my next wheel change. I'll bring this set of pictures to my Honda 'expert'.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 26, 2015 12:24 pm

Honestly, it could easily be an error in the manual. Apart from the TRAC, I don't there is much difference in the forks - so I think I'd be OK with 24 ft-lb.

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Tue May 26, 2015 12:36 pm

I did prompt this mechanic about the torque when he was replacing the fork seals. Here in Moose Jaw, he's known as the 'go-to-guy' for older Honda bikes. People come from around Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba and Montana and North Dakota because he's one of the only guys around with history with these bikes. I did ask him when putting on the studs and nuts about what I've read in the blogs and the lower torque setting. He didn't know about it. He did show me other forks he had lying around, and yes some were TRAC and not, but they all had the same #8 stud and nuts. I dunno. I was thinking maybe that's why it's stretched - being over torqued. Well it's on now and I've got about half life left in the tire. I bring my bike there for tire changes just because it gives him a chance to look things over (make minor adjustments, lube, etc) and quite honestly changing tires on bikes is messy for me. Cars - no sweat, but bikes - yuck. Especially the rear.

But next time, I will bring those pictures you included. Thanks again. It'll make him take a second look. Who knows, maybe he'll learn something from me?
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Earl43P » Thu May 28, 2015 7:13 am

I installed 83 TRAC forks on my 82 from an 83 engine/wheel donor.

82 fork studs were larger 10x52 (90102-463-003) vs. the 83 fork studs, which ARE 8x50 (92900-08028-3B).
Obviously, the #8 stud will require a lower torque.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby WingAdmin » Thu May 28, 2015 9:11 am

Earl43P wrote:I installed 83 TRAC forks on my 82 from an 83 engine/wheel donor.

82 fork studs were larger 10x52 (90102-463-003) vs. the 83 fork studs, which ARE 8x50 (92900-08028-3B).
Obviously, the #8 stud will require a lower torque.


Thanks for this. So it would appear that the manual is correct, and the 83 requires the lower torque value.

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Thu May 28, 2015 10:08 am

Thanks. I'll have them backed off and re-torqued to the lower value.
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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Earl43P » Thu May 28, 2015 4:17 pm

Earl43P had no such success
His 83 stud was and is, quite a mess
He tried double nutting
to pull that stud out
It's clamped, double nutted
still tight, have no doubt. :mrgreen:





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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Fri May 29, 2015 9:34 pm

Done. Borrowed a good quality torque wrench (Snap On) from the air ambulance unit where I work. So I know it's calibrated. Set the torque to 16 (as shown in the picture). Torqued the nuts, then re-did it again at 18. So hopefully that's all good. With all the nuts, bolts and studs on the bike I'm now super aware of these ones. I'll drive it a bit then see if the torque is holding. If I don't add anything back to this forum then all is good, or I thundered in on the Trans Canada highway between Moose Jaw and Regina in a horrific crash. Thanks all.

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat May 30, 2015 7:22 am

Sask_Aspencade wrote:Hi Guys (and Gals). Replacing my front wheel I see and feel the axle holder studs are stretched and I don't feel comfortable torquing too much. They feel like they won't take it. Not sure on torque, but I would guess at least 25 ft-lbs, maybe more, is needed. So first question: what is the torque for these studs? I have a 1983 Apsencade if that makes a difference. Second, does anyone know where I can get replacements? And/or what strength of bolt they are? Thanks for your help.


you can get the bolts here......http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/H ... parts.html @ 95 cents US each plus what ever the shipping is to have them sent to you.

just type 92900-08028-3B into the searchbox and it will bring them up on their website.

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Re: GL1100 Front Axle Holder bolt/stud replacement

Postby Sask_Aspencade » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:47 pm

Update after one year of driving. The lower torque at 18 was just fine. It held it's torque after about 3800km of driving. So, I believe that is that.


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