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vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:44 pm



Hello.. 1st time user so please bear with me as I try to get though this. I have a 1983 GL1100 interstate. There is a vibration when I lean left (only) it feels like it is coming from the middle of the bike. Light pressure on the hand and foot brake has no effect. Hand and foot brakes together or seperate have no effect. Speed also no effect. Thanks Bucky



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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:06 pm

Is it just a vibration internally that you feel, or is it a wobble that is actually moving the bike?

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:51 pm

I would say it is more of a vibration. It does not wobble the bike, but you can not miss it. I have gone over all the bolts I can find, engine brake roters, schocks etc. I do notice if I squeeze the clutch it is gone or very minimal. Also, I found that speed does make a difference.

Thanks.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:29 am

Hm. My first guess would be wheel bearings, in particular the rear bearings, being that you can alter it by pulling the clutch in.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby cbach1981 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:23 pm

Agreed on the bearings. I just changed my front ones this past weekend and it feels like a whole new bike. I never even knew they were bad until I was changing tires. So little play in the bearings that I couldn't detect it just doing a tire shake. Noticed after removing wheel and giving a close look. It's amazing how much they can change the feel of your ride.
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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:20 pm

I guess I will go with the wheel bearings, front and rear while I am at it. Is there any special trick a guy should know before taking on this project?

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby cbach1981 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:10 pm

Check out the how-to's on this site, that's what I went by and it worked fine.
    You only need two tools in life - wd-40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the wd-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape!

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:01 pm

There are a couple tricks to get them out involving making tools, so that you don't have to buy expensive custom Honda tools, but it's all mentioned on the how-to's:

How to replace your front wheel bearings

How to replace your rear wheel bearings

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:23 pm

The bolt trick is not working on the front bearings. I have hammered the screwdriver in as far as it will go. All I am getting is the bolt pushes out, the threads are flattened, not even budging the bearing. 5 try's and no luck. Any other suggestions? Thanks Bucky

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:52 pm

When I did it, the screwdriver was not able to be pushed all the way into the bottom of the cut in the bolt - I put the head of the bolt on the cement floor and hammered the screwdriver into the bolt using a two pound sledge. On one of my rear bearings, it took several tries before it came out. Brute force! The bearings are going to be destroyed anyway, so don't be afraid about being gentle pounding the screwdriver in!

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby cbach1981 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:35 am

I just did my fronts with the bolt trick. one side came right out, the other didn't. I ended up trashing the old bearing, to the point where the inner race broke and fell apart. Then i pulled the cage and balls out. To remove the outer race I used a jaw-puller, wedged in as tight as I could get it, and beat the hell out of it with a small sledge hammer by placing a bolt thru the hub and against the puller. After a lot of hammering, swearing, pounded knuckles, and more swearing it finally came out.
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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:39 am

The second bearing doesn't need to use the screwdriver-in-the-bolt trick. Just turn the bolt around backwards and put it in the wheel, so the bolt head is against the inside of the bearing, then whack the end of the bolt sticking out - it should pop that bearing right out.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:43 am

I have hit this thing with all I've got and it will not budge. The screwdriver is in as far as it will go (even tried a chisel in the slot). The threads of the bolt are all mooched from pounding on the screwdriver. It just moves out with every hit of the hammer. The top of the inner race has broken so I guess I'll try to break it the rest of the way and go from there. I do not know how many gallons of penetrating oil I have gone though. Swearing, pounded knuckles, and more swearing ,I have been that route. All I can hope for is a couple extra bucks in the collection plate will get me back in the good graces. Thanks for your help, will keep in touch.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:16 am

Wow, yours is the first I have heard that absolutely wouldn't come out.

If the threads are munged and slipping, try to see if you can get something that will give it some grip. You could try wrapping a couple layers of electrical tape around the threads where it contacts the inner race, to give it some grip and help prevent it from sliding past.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:05 pm

I finely gave up and took it to a shop they think they can remove them. I thought while the wheel was there they might as well take them both out. I must admit I am a little hesitant to tangle with the rear set after this ordeal. I am sure this feeling will fade once I get back to messing with it. While the wheel is off the bike is there any way to clean the dirt and break dust that has gotten into just about impossible places to reach?

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:25 pm

I used Armor All and an old toothbrush.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:14 pm

Hi.... Just another question on the 83 GL. interstate. After torque the axel nut (42lbs) the speedometer drive has absolutely on movement. Should that rotate on the axle? It is as solid as a rock. I am sure the bearings ,seals, etc are seated ok. Any ideas on this one
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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:05 pm

Disregard the last question. I put it together and all seem fine, in front end. Vibration is still there. Still debating on the rear bearings.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:43 am

Just for anyone who is searching this topic, the drive should not move once everything is tightened up.

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:08 pm

Hello... Well the rear bearings got replaced. And the vibration is still there. I am guessing the drive shaft is the next thing I should look at? Bucky

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:29 pm

Have you checked to see if the wheel is rubbing anywhere?

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Re: vibration 83 GL interstate

Postby bucky » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:25 pm

Yes I have checked the wheels. also the engine bolts. All look OK to me. I am now guessing the drive shaft or something in the drive line. Does that sound reasonable to you?




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