Poof went my electrics? 83asp


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Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby Flyboy6 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:44 pm



Well, just been dropped off by the most expensive tow truck ride I've ever had. 20 miles from home, just getting up to decent speed on the 16 lane freeway, there was a brief puff of blue smoke by my left knee, and all the electrics went out – including of course the ignition. Was able to coast across three lane changes in heavy traffic, and pull over onto the shoulder. Which, now that I think of it, with no signals, was a dumbass thing to do.

Tried some roadside troubleshooting, but too much traffic whistling past my ear and just not worth the risk. Any guesses from any of you on where to start digging? Main 30A fuse not blown. Which kind of surprised me. My first guess is that one or another of the red wires that move into and out of the starter relay might be fried. That would shut everything down, right?

Time for the next semester of Old Bike University.



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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby virgilmobile » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:53 pm

Use a test light...The 2 red wires at the solenoid...one comes from the regulator module..the other feeds the ignition switch..

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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby Flyboy6 » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:04 pm

So - I believe I'm looking for 12v in from rec-reg on the R/W line? And continuity between the two reds (R/W to R)? I've wondered if there's any reason to not just jumper them together, with 30A fuse, and a lead to solenoid, rather than them being bonded inside the solenoid. Seems to add one more complexity inside that case...
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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby virgilmobile » Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:05 pm

Exactly what I did on all mine..Standard 30 amp fuseholder..not the mini...bonded to both the red wires and ring connected to the battery post..a complete start solenoid bypass.
Did your lights also go out when the magic smoke leaked out the left side?

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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby Flyboy6 » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:27 pm

Indeed. Puff of smoke and nothing electric left. The sound of wheels turning on pavement.

Problem now solved, however - I had done some work on solenoid a few weeks ago, and used too light a wire in one spot - it essentially acted as fusible link and just failed after taking too much current - long before the 30A would fail. It was in line with the main red out of the solenoid, so took every thing electric with it.

I have put it all back together tonight, using a high quality Lycoming solenoid (from my stock of aircraft parts), bypassed it with bonded reds, full size 30A fuse holder, ring clamp to batt, good stout wires, and everything ticking right along again. Except my bank account which took a licking from the tow truck guy.

Thanks for all advice.
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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:04 pm

Glad you got it working. Most expensive tow I had was also the shortest - on the Northbound DVP in Toronto, my crappy 79 Mustang broke a timing belt at the exit ramp for Don Mills. The $100 tow took me from the bottom of the exit ramp to the top, where there was a garage, all of about 1/10 mile. This was back in around 1988, and $100 was a lot of cash back then!

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Re: Poof went my electrics? 83asp

Postby Flyboy6 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:12 pm

I recognize the spot ! Ouch. Big uphill, too. Truck probably never got out of second gear.

Speaking of DVP, with the Pan Am Games in town for the next month, traffic is chaos, as they have introduced temporary HOV lanes - forcing usual traffic into fewer lanes. The one bright spot is that they have included motorcycles in the HOV category - so it is actually easier than usual to move around town. Though the intensity of the glares from drivers in the slow lanes feels like it sets up some kind of negative force field...


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