Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems


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Patchytoast
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Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby Patchytoast » Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:44 am



[quote[/quote]Hi all apologies for just diving straight in with a tech issue but it's confusing me somewhat and I'm getting tired of push starting my bike every time I want to use it.
I have an 82 which I beleive was a plain Jane that has had a front interstate fairing fitted. I had problems with starting the bike and initially changed the starter solenoid hoping it would be a nice and easy fix. It wasn't that. I then did a partial recondition on the starter as per the instructions on this site (awesome instructions) and it worked. For a while. However it didn't want to hold a charge on the Battery. I've got 13.7 going to it over the connectors and the battery is only 12 months old. Could I have wired the solenoid the wrong way round but it still works? Could the solenoid be faulty?
Also I've also now noticed that at tick over I'm losing power and the idiot lights flicker and the radio shuts down however returns when the revs come back up.
I've now also replaced the brushes in the starter as one of them was sticking.
Finally I can't now seem to get a charge into the battery. Could it be dead from all the cycles of full charge to discharge?
Sorry for the wordy post but would really appreciate all the help I can get. This bike was left to me by my dad and was his way of getting me onto a bike which I've always wanted to do and I want to keep it running for him too.
Thanks
Chris



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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:08 am

Easiest thing to test.With a volt meter,measure across the battery posts for a reference voltage.Move the positive wire to the regulator module plug.That same voltage should be on both red wires.All with the key off.
Unplug the starter solenoid small 4 wire plug.Probe where the 2 red wires made contact,not the wires.They both should have battery volts on them.Those terminals should be bonded together and have a 30 amp fuse connected to the battery cable post on the start relay.

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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby aj1500 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:22 pm

from what I understand about what you are seeing I would start with replacing the battery. if you are seeing major power or voltage loss at idle and then it recovers when accelerating it's most likely a battery issue or a stator, however you say you have 13 V going to the battery so it sounds like your stator is doing it's job. I used to have to replace the battery on my 1200 every year like clockwork.

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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:13 am

Have your battery load tested at a battery shop..if it's good then move on to testing the regulator, stator output and battery cables/connections. The negative cable can rot out but look fine, the connection at the engine hanger is the first place to look, look at the yellow wire plug..is it burned/melted???
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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:20 am

I'd go straight to the ground first,, to the frame... Replace the ground wire with a new one, make sure the bolt is good and tight, try it again...Could be that because when the bike is in motion like that the ground may be losing good contact thus your flickering.... :D My 2 pennies..lol + 1 with RB...

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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby Patchytoast » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:55 pm

Well I've got to the bottom of it. The new aftermarket starter solinoid that I replaced the original with was faulty. When going to check it I heard a buzzing coming from it, even after removing all the wires and just leaving the main cables from the battery and to the starter on it was still buzzing.
I replaced it with the original I had kept, but have had to replace the battery as cycling the charging and discharging has ruined it and it wouldn't hold a charge.
Thankfully I don't have to push it up my driveway and push it t start any more (for the time being.....)
Thanks for the suggestions and pointers.

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Re: Bike starting and maintaing a charge problems

Postby chrisz » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:38 pm

Patchytoast, thanks for sharing your resolution to your issue.




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