Starter On GL1100


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Piddler
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Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:39 pm



My timing belt post just changed lanes on me so I started this one.
I swapped the timing belts out today but I couldn't get my GL1100 to turn over as I suspected the starter wouldn't kick on. I removed the starter and hooked it to my jump charger and it spins while off the bike but I don't know how strongly. Then I put it back on the bike and hooked my jump starter to it directly, it would turn the engine over but not very fast. I checked the voltage on the loose wire running to the starter while disconnected from the starter and I got around 10 volts though the battery has 12v showing. I pulled the plugs out and ran the starter with the jump charger and it would turn over a bit better but not very impressive, My jump charger will go to 200A so I would give it short bursts. I couldn't get the bike to start that way though. What is the likely hood of a relay or something like that failing on me?
Any ideas?
Greg



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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:09 pm

Looks like the starter is toast.
Thanks for all the help everyone.
Actually, the Venturers techs walked me through it.
Greg in California

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby wingman12 » Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:57 pm

Your starter may not be toast. There is a good chance that it needs a $50 rebuild kit and a good cleaning. I believe bike bandit has the rebuilt kit. Yes you might be able to find a $80 starter, but when I got one of these it lasted exactly 12 starts and quit. The rebuild kit has been working great for almost a year now. Check out the how to do articles on how to rebuild your starter. Good luck. :D :D

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:17 pm

Wow! You were right!
I was sure the starter was toast due to the fact that the armature contacts were badly pitted and seemed welded together with molten copper between some of the spaces where they rub the brushes. I took my dremmel and re-grooved the copper rotary contacts. I then chucked the gear end of the armature into my drill press and like shining shoes wrapped some 400 grit wet/dry paper around it and turned it on. Shined it right up. Put it back together and it spins like new again with no new parts.
Thanks for getting me thinking about it. It gave birth to a plan.
Greg

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:48 pm

That is to say, I "lightly" chucked down on the starter gear. LOL
Greg

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby wingman12 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:26 pm

congratulations on your cleaning up your starter. amazing how much carbon can collect over 33 years inside of the starter. :D :D

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:39 pm

Success!
I put the 82 GL1100 back together today and fired her up. Took her for a ride and to my surprise it felt like a little bike compared to the 84 Venture Royal I've been riding. Ran good though, wonderful second gear, ( the Venture has what is called "the second gear problem" ), steady idle, ( My Venture idle has been mocing up and down depending on the temp of the bike), but it felt funny lol. The GL1100 has been down since 12/20/14 when it went clunk and stopped running.
Feels good to have it back on it's wheels and off the center stand. Now I can pay attention to the VR without sacrificing riding time and visa versa. I noticed the rear brakes need work on the Honda and the real wheel is not quite right since I changed tires last. It seems I must have put the spacers in wrong or it is not lined up strait. I may need to look for an adjustment to turn front of the wheel to the left just a bit to true it up.
Greg

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby wingman12 » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:12 pm

Greg, by any chance did you do anything with the swing arm bearings? Maybe not got them back in correctly? I did that last year and caused a funny handling issue in the turns and did not track correctly. :D :D

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:35 pm

I most likely did it wrong. I will need to redo it.

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Re: Starter On GL1100

Postby Piddler » Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:17 am

I actually did try to redo it shortly after I put the new tire on but I could get no form of reference that I could understand. I believe I even asked tor guidance here if my memory serves but I couldn't get it together. Don't remember why so I just made sure it didn't rub anymore and rode it.
Greg




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