Dark side ??


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Dark side ??

Postby Jeff_65 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:36 am



I've read a bunch of threads on this n was just wondering.
Anyone jumped over with n 83 1100i ??
:twisted:


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Re: Dark side ??

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:20 am

The general consensus is that there are no auto tires made that will both fit the rear rim, as well as fit between the swingarm arms on the GL1100. Nobody has been able to find one thus far, anyway.

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Re: Dark side ??

Postby Jeff_65 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:41 am

Thanks wingman 12 for your reply,was reading those posts n thinking, Hmmm :?
Ohh n the advice on my switch worked wonders too.

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Re: Dark side ??

Postby newday777 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:10 am

The only gl1100 I've read about possibly going darkside had a gl1500 swingarm morfed on, driveshaft, final drive and wheel put on the 1100 for the width, though he had a m/c tire on it.
Only the gl1800 handles a ct well with the single side swing arm, having done it on the GL150O and now on my 4th ct on my GL1800.
I don't recommend it on the gl1500, The suspension doesn't work well with a ct. Ran 2 different ct, there isn't room for the limited ct size available for the needed stiff sidewalls of a run flat tire in the swingarm.

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Re: Dark side ??

Postby minimac » Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:06 am

I (and countless others) have darksided a 1500 with no problems whatsoever. I chose the Austone because it is a six ply radial. There may or may not be run flats available for the 1500, but there are plenty of other options. There are tires available for an 1100,but they are not carried at the common big tire stores and it takes a lot of searching. I know of one rider that ordered his tire from Europe and had a friend there ship it to him. Although he's happy with it, he says it was too much of a hassle. Modifying the swingarm and changing over parts to the fifteen hundred is a huge project and can create other issues. Just because it can be done(on an 1100/1200), given enough time and money, doesn't mean it should be done.

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Re: Dark side ??

Postby newday777 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:17 pm

Yes it can be done on the 1500s. On my 99SE I put 17,500 on a EL400 Bridgestone that followed grooves in roads and wobbles in 80 mph and above.
I put over 10,000 on the 2nd ct before the cagger took out the bike, a Vredestein Comtrac 6 ply. First 5,000 miles were great, less following grooves in concrete roads but then pronounced wobbles came into high speed corners and gradually got worse even down to 70 mph corners.
After the demise of the 99SE, I picked up a 99A that had 17,000 miles on it that I brought back to life after it sat for 8-12 years, I put that Vredestein on it and the wobbles happened on it too. I put an Avon rear mt on and the wobbles went totally away. I personally haven't riden the Austone but know 2 others that ended up not liking the poorer handling of the Austone on the 1500s and another rider that put one on a 1200 that did the 1500 final drive and wheel swap.
Just my experience on the 1500s darkside. As I said, I don't recommend it on the GL150O.
I feel it's in the framework and the suspension of the 1500s that don't handle the stresses the CT enters into the 1500s going darkside.
I wanted very much for it to work out. I studied many posts on the darkside before going to it,
I am an avid darksider on the gl1800.

minimac wrote:I (and countless others) have darksided a 1500 with no problems whatsoever. I chose the Austone because it is a six ply radial. There may or may not be run flats available for the 1500, but there are plenty of other options. There are tires available for an 1100,but they are not carried at the common big tire stores and it takes a lot of searching. I know of one rider that ordered his tire from Europe and had a friend there ship it to him. Although he's happy with it, he says it was too much of a hassle. Modifying the swingarm and changing over parts to the fifteen hundred is a huge project and can create other issues. Just because it can be done(on an 1100/1200), given enough time and money, doesn't mean it should be done.

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Re: Dark side ??

Postby robb » Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:55 pm

Can try this tire but it is an inch shorter in height. I ran them on a 75 Sportster for 50k without issue.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coker-Tire-Exce ... 1503770957




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