Ignition problem maybe?


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Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:51 pm



I got my 82 GL1100 running after the timing belt and starter issues and it seemed to be running great until about 4 days ago it suddenly died while pulling up to a light. I couldn't even get the neutral light to come on as I sat in this gas station parking lot. I called for my son to bring the trailor but before he got there, after maybe 40 minutes, I tried it again and the neutral light came on, it started and has ran like a top every since,, until today, I was driving to Berkeley and back in hot weather, on the way home, almost home it died as I pulled up to a stop sign. Again, no neutral light and no starter activity at all. I pushed it forward to a down hill slope and got it to start on the roll but barely, it seemed to be running on 1 or 2 cylinders and I really had to play with the throttle to keep it going to make it home since no help was available. I ran every stop sign to keep it running. I just tried the key and still no sign it is turning on, no neutral light, nothing.
Any ideas?
Greg



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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:16 pm

Loss of electric...First suspect is loose battery cables and then a cracked dogbone fuse..The fuse is located under the plastic door on the starter solenoid..

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby roadwanderer2 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:18 pm

have you checked the dog bone fuse on the starter solenoid relay? sometimes when they are old and get hot enough, loose their contact point and can shut the entire bike down. that happened to me once, then i replaced the old style fuse with a modern blade type. you might want to consider replacing the solenoid relay with one of these.............http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Relay-S ... 27&vxp=mtr i would look at that first, then try checking the voltage regulator/rectifier. if it has blistering on the back side of it, its starting to burn itself out. heres a pic of a new reg/rec.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Regu ... 73&vxp=mtr the back of it should be very smooth. also check the plastic connectors on both ends for any melted plastic, and also check the connections on the 3 yellow stater wires. bad wires or plastic connector ends on any of these parts can melt or get corroded and make the bike want to shut down. i replaced both parts and i haven't had any problems with it since. from the symptoms your describing, that's where i would look first.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:53 pm

All right. I'll check em out tomorrow.
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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 pm

Now that it's cooled off, it fires right up and sounds wonderful again.
Greg

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:54 am

ok, glad it starts back up, but it sounds like an electrical or a fuel delivery problem somewhere once it gets hot.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:44 am

This is exactly the behavior my GL1100 exhibited when the dogbone fuse was cracked. Looking at it, it looks fine, but when the bike heats up, it expands, and the tiny crack separates the fuse enough to kill all electrical activity. When I took the fuse out, it crumbled to powder in my fingers.

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viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14197&p=71097

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:14 am

the new style of starter relays are cheap enough that i bought 3 of them. they came supplied with a 40A blade fuse. i keep the extra ones with me in my "electrical parts" container that i carry in my saddlebag every where i go just in case i need it. on my last ride down to Florida last year my bike quit on me at a red light, thank goodness i had a spare relay with me to change it out real quick. five minutes later the bike was up and running again.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:02 am

It pretty much has to be electrical because I remembered the red "rear shock pressure" light stayed lit the whole time it was running badly and limping home.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby roadwanderer2 » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:34 pm

is it possible that you might have a bad ground connection somewhere? i would also check the connection plug that's under the ignition switch. while down in Florida last year, i had a problem with mine. every so often if i turned the handlebars to a certain point, until i found the problem and fixed it, the ignition switch would cause the bike to shut completely off. its a real PITA when your in traffic and the bike shuts off especially at a red light in the center lane during rush hour lol. i eventually wound up replacing the entire switch, and using a thin, narrow flat screwdriver, i scraped each connection pin inside the plastic switch connector until i saw every pin was nice and clean. the problem was at the base of the ignition switch at the connector so i just replaced the entire switch.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:25 am

The plot thickens, I tried to start my bike after it had cooled down like several times before when it worked after setting a while but this time there is nothing, no neutral light no starter activity at all however, when I put the key on ACC, I can run the compressor and adjust the shocks.
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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:26 am

Piddler wrote:The plot thickens, I tried to start my bike after it had cooled down like several times before when it worked after setting a while but this time there is nothing, no neutral light no starter activity at all however, when I put the key on ACC, I can run the compressor and adjust the shocks.
Greg


Have you checked the fuse yet?

Have you checked any of the fuses? Pull each one out and check them visually and electrically while they are out of the bike.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:31 am

The plot thickens, I tried to start my bike after it had cooled down like several times before when it worked after setting a while but this time there is nothing, no neutral light no starter activity at all. (Last part deleted)
Never-mind the last part, that was my 84 Venture Royal that I ran the compressor on acc mode. I'm having trouble with it too.
Greg



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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:35 am

Taking the in-laws out to breakfast, will delve into it when we get back. My Bro-in-law rode out from Kentucky on his 96 Goldwing 1500 and is visiting me in Calif. He and I will tackle it in an hour or two.
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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby Piddler » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:01 pm

Yep, It was the dogbone fuse.

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Re: Ignition problem maybe?

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:11 pm

glad that you found the problem. you might want to consider getting this to replace that old style dog bone fuse with this.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Starter-Relay-S ... b8&vxp=mtr

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