NOW what happened GL 1100


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NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:33 pm



Starting my bike.... because I have everything fixed as long as it sits there!!!! THIS HAPPEN TO ME.... The back cover looking at it.... top left... the cap in the center of the case... drops on the floor along with all the threads... oh wait.... then a bolt followed it... seems to have a spring on it.... running fine.... so I shut it off. Closed the door and ordered a cover.... Since I have not opened it... any ideas what I am getting into??? Do I just have a parts bike left.... this bike only has 49,000 on it.... seems like it has been one thing after another since I bought it.... ride a day or two... back to the garage it goes... I am froggy enough to remove the engine and pull the back cover and find out... but I like to be prepared with all the right parts... I have the language for the garage down pat and favorite beer in the fridge.... plenty of tools.... so... I guess what I am saying the mechanical is the challenge. So far with a lot of help through this site all has been repaired and stayed fixed. So one more time I get to post something else ruining my day... THX Doc



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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:52 pm

Good afternoon Doc, a picture would be most helpful in assisting you on your current problem. :roll: :roll:

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:21 pm

WINGMAN: give me a few minutes and I will take pic's and send them to my email. Pic's are always good. Doc

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:53 pm

Wingman: Under the threaded "Plug" the bolt (does not have a spring) I was able to thread it back in to ???? a gear??? I had a "knocking" almost like change slap at idle. Asked the mechanic and he said.... your carbs are out of sync. Ask if he was sure.... I could here the "knock" I used my stethoscope!!! He said he was the mechanic... been doing it for years... OK I took the hint.... but I have been a gear head since high school... never stopped turning wrenches... SO.... now we know... I was right and he was wrong... but I am left with the mess!!!! LOL teach me not to stick to my opinion!!! Can I save it??? Doc

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:07 pm

This is the alternator bolt, which can be used to rotate the engine. Sometimes people rotate it the wrong way and comes loose, or it was not torqued the correct amount. In either case, the result is exactly what you just experienced.

Rear alternator bolt
Rear alternator bolt


Most of the time when this happens, the bolt pushes the cap out and rips the threads out of the cover. If you're lucky, it might have actually spun it out and preserved the threads. In either case, you're likely going to have to take the rear cover off to replace (and torque!!) that bolt, and possibly replace the cover, and possibly the cap as well, if its threads were damaged.

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:14 pm

Doc, I have to admit I can not see how that part can just fall off. I am not a mechanic, I am going to let several of the more experienced persons on this site provide you the guidance to the replacement. do you by chance have any of the bolts that hold that cover on?? :o :o

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:25 pm

WINGMAN: See what others have said... besides being a pain to get to.... everything appears fine. So I will do a lot of reading and studying... and jump in with both feet!!! I have the new cover just waiting on the "plug" and gasket to arrive.... plus I will get a set of brushes for the alternator and carb kit and floats... lets just do this right... plus now I can really clean it!!!! Thanks for getting back with me... Doc

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:56 pm

See what happens Doc when you ask a question. good luck with your upgrades. When was the last time the timing belts were changed?? :D :D

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:00 pm

Timing belt.... 300 miles ago.... new water pump and twice through on the seals!!! Did it right the second time... Might as well put new tires... not by miles but by age!!! Look new but I know they are older. New brakes while I am at it!!! LOL... Go too far I will send it out for new paint!!!

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby redbug » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:22 pm

I looked at a parts page on cms and the only spring I see is behind the clutch cover and maybe attaches to the clutch rod ,looks like a return spring for the rod, but how did it get all the way up there. I have never had one apart yet( back cover ) and am interested also.
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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:42 pm

Doc, been there done that on taking more than once to get the seals right. Sounds like you will be all set for many miles of pleasant riding once you finish this little bump in the road. Your bike looks in pretty good shape, a little wax and it will look like new. Ride often and ride safe. :D :D

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:14 pm

You are right. The bike is in really GREAT shape. That is why my buddy stopped to be sure I did not become discouraged and part it. I was looking at a GL1500 and it is nicer than mine.... but.... I love my old school look. I searched for a long time to find a GL1100 in any shape. I wanted and interstate or Aspencade. But settled for a GW with the Honda line bags. Plus the odometer convinced me also. Here is the funny part... it was dirty when I bought it.... trailered it home... thinking I bought a maroon bike... then I cleaned it... WOW it was brown... looked at the title... yep... it was brown alright.... this is where the love/hate relationship started with me and this bike... the bike will love me someday!!!!

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby f1xrupr » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:06 pm

Just thinking.....that's the bolt you use to turn the engine (that you should never turn counter-clockwise because it may loosen!), and you had the timing belts replaced 300 miles ago :roll: .
No brushes in the alternator btw....
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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:14 pm

Thanks for the "no brushes" in the alternator. While I have the engine out and right there... that is the time to do everything!!!! Who knows what all happened and who all worked on this bike over the years before I found it. This damage was not expected.... but I get to know my bike a lot closer then I planned!!!

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:18 pm

Kinda appears that your mechanic that changed your belts loosened that bolt?? I wish I had know you were looking for an older bike, I have a beautifully completely restored 82 1100 for sale.

only needs a rider, I know you will be happy with your 83, since you enjoy wrenching it is good for you to go thru things and learn how your new to you ride works. Happy trails, I know you will be riding before me the way this winter is going so far. :D :D

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:26 pm

The Goldwing makes a real strong knocking sound when the carbs are out of sync. it's usually the case, that's why the mechanic said what he said.... :D It sounds like someone put the spring on the wrong bolt to me, perhaps the bolt it goes to is missing the spring in the clutch area :shock: , sounds like they just didn't tighten the cover bolt back and forgot to tighten it, if they put the spring on that bolt it would more than likely back out like that, wow :shock: .... This is all kinda scary to read... :shock: I'm sure you will figure it out, good luck.. I would for sure check for the springs original location, yep for sure... :shock:

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby f1xrupr » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:29 pm

wingman12 wrote:Kinda appears that your mechanic that changed your belts loosened that bolt?? I wish I had know you were looking for an older bike, I have a beautifully completely restored 82 1100 for sale.
1982 gl side.jpg

only needs a rider, I know you will be happy with your 83, since you enjoy wrenching it is good for you to go thru things and learn how your new to you ride works. Happy trails, I know you will be riding before me the way this winter is going so far. :D :D
wow...that's nice!
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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby f1xrupr » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:36 pm

Doc H wrote:Thanks for the "no brushes" in the alternator. While I have the engine out and right there... that is the time to do everything!!!! Who knows what all happened and who all worked on this bike over the years before I found it. This damage was not expected.... but I get to know my bike a lot closer then I planned!!!
"get to know my bike a lot closer then I planned"......booooooy, I can relate to that!!!
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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:58 am

Wingman: Your location says "Land of Lincoln" unless you are near the windy city... we will ride about the same time. I live 25 miles from Danville. Illinois. Same weather pattern. I was riding Christmas day and the week before. Grandkids were here oh and their parents!!! Through Christmas... So their helmet's come out and we did a bit of riding. I have made my parts order, seals bearings, etc. All I have to do is figure out how to take the motor out!!! All will be fine and I will learn this bike so it can be around for a long time!!! By the way... Yes your bike looks great.... wife may nicely stop me from buying another!!! I will not give up any cars for garage space!!! We just pack them tighter!!!! Doc

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby wingman12 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:24 am

Doc, I live north of the windy city about 10 miles from the WI line. I put my wing to bed in the middle of Nov when we got our first snow fall (13.5 in.) I to have been ordering upgrade parts for the 99 and will soon begin tearing it down and adding the new stainless brake lines, complete conversion to 100 LED, clean up the starter, replace all of the vacuum lines, just to mention a few items. Hopefully I will have back together in time for the spring shake down ride. :D :D

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:37 am

How cool!!! WINGMAN... 13 inches of snow... that would slow me down also.... fire place coffee and Bailey's and move the bike into the living room sounds like a plan.... well until married.... Single days I would do that!!! Work, study because of school... play with the bike. A lot of carb work in the kitchen... those days are long past at this point!!!! Doc

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby bdukes » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:00 pm

Doc I've got the same problem on a 82 aspencade . Motor is on the bench. Just waiting for parts. Must be something in this West Central Indiana Air.

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Re: NOW what happened GL 1100

Postby Doc H » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:16 pm

WOW... so you know how to get the motors out of the frame!!! I may need to talk with you!!!! Hire you or something.... Since I see we live so close together... my son in law is from Kingman. Small world. Here is my cell give me a text.. 765 376 7782 Thanks Doc




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