starting problem-gl1100i


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stonyjohn
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starting problem-gl1100i

Postby stonyjohn » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:41 pm



I am the proud owner of a GL1100I with only 114000km on it. today I took my wife for a ride, making one stop to look at a house under construction. When we went to start to leave the bike turned over slowly then just click. The battery has lots of charge. Sometimes in the past the bike has turned over slowly but never failed to start. hopefully someone has had this problem before and can help me with finding a solution. Thanks in advance.



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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby RBGERSON » Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:10 am

Several possibilities..bad connection in the circuit somewhere..like at the ground connection from starter to bike at engine mount triangle, starter needs to cleaned out or rebuilt crap inside shorting it out, broken connect inside starter, Start with those.
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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby rosey1 » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:55 pm

Also when the starters a rebuilt the pieces of the motor are painted individually before being assembled thus causing a continuity or break in the power. I thouroughly cleaned mine of paint at each contact point around motor endcaps and stator housing before reassembly and also cleaned the point where the bolts and the starter mount to the engine and my starter sounded just like a new one. This is merely one idea but it may also be the solenoid too or some of the things the other person mentioned. Anyway good luck.

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby mortiki » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:11 pm

I recently had similar thing on Trixie. Would start good cold but warmed up it would click or grind or lockup. I got a new battery and rebuild kit and took starter off and found brushes in terrible shape. One was not even touching commutator and it had arc marks all over it. After rebuild it started like new bike with old battery still in it. So now I have a new battery for backup.
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stonyjohn
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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby stonyjohn » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:39 pm

I spent some time today checking things out further, and there is power to the starter, but seloniod just clicks as before. I also checked for power at the starter and found that it made it that far. Next I a boost on the starter and when the key was on and booster connected the selonoid just clicked when the starter button was pushed. In my mind the problem must be in the starter.

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby mortiki » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:24 am

If your looking to rebuild your starter like I did, I got mine on ebay here,
GL1000 GL1100 starter repair kit Yamaha Kawasaki [33
Item# 250654340744
It has everything including sealed head bearings. Make sure you use the thinner oring for the head or it will not go back into the engine.
There is never enough time to do it right but there is always time to do it over.
Edmond Burke "The only thing necessary for the advancement of evil is for good men to do nothing".

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby rosey1 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:14 pm

IT SOUNDS AS IF THE BRUSHES ARE SHOT OR THE STARTER MOTOR ISN'T GROUNDED CORRECTLY TO THE ENGINE CASE THUS CAUSING A BREAK IN POWER. i WOULD TAKE IT OFF AND LOOK IN THE END CAP AND I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND THE PROBLEM. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO GET OFF YOU JUST GOTTA DO IT.

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby grwokla » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:02 pm

Sounds like I may be having a similar problem on my GL1100i. Today when riding and making a stop after engine was warm, it didn't want to start. Acted as if the battery was nearly dead. First turned slowly then not at all. Just a click when pushing the starter button. I jumped it, and that wouldn't even work. I recently replaced the starter with a new one, and also replaced the battery less than a month ago. I finally pushed the bike to get it running, and it started easily with a push. I put a charger on the battery when I got it home, and it shows that the battery has a good charge already. I have not taken loose the ground wire to check it other than to notice that it is tight. The starter has worked beautifully up till now, so have a hard time believing that it is bad already. Any other suggestions?

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby stonyjohn » Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:32 pm

my starter acted like yours. i put new brushes in and cleaned things up inside. then i used battery from vehicle to try the sarter--nothing but a click. last resot was to change the starter--problem solved. bike starts like new again, so am sure that was the problem. be sure that all your wire connections are clean and properly grounded.. good luck.

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby grwokla » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:27 pm

Have done some further testing today. Battery tests good charge. Checked and cleaned battery connections. Cleaned and tightened solonoid terminals. Have juice from battery to starter connection, which I cleaned and tightened as well. I'm guessing the next step will be to remove the starter and check internally, though it seems crazy to have a problem so soon after installing a new starter.

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby grwokla » Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:36 pm

I took off the starter to check it out, and sure enough it looked pretty rough. I took apart and cleaned it up good and put it back together. Started instantly! Problem solved. My concern is what is causing the premature were, as the starter was installed new only about 3 months ago. Do these starters have a reputation for this sort of thing? Anyway, I'm glad I am back on the road again!

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Re: starting problem-gl1100i

Postby stonyjohn » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:18 pm

perhaps the replacement brushes are not as good a quality as original or the armiture has a rough spot on it to cause excessive wear on brushes. best of luck to you and RIDE SAFE.




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