Starter spins, don't start bike


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Mightythordog
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Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby Mightythordog » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:03 pm



First, brand new starter, brand new battery, new solenoid. As you can probably tell I had problems. :). After all this trouble ( old solenoid tried to trip me up) and weak battery. Got it put back together and tried to start it up. Success! Fired right up. Oops, forgot to turn gas back on, so ran out of gas. Turn gas on and starter just spins. You know sound it makes that, I'm not going to in gauge and turn the engine over sound. Any ideas? Now what? Help!



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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby chrisz » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:20 pm

It may be the sprague starter clutch, see below from another poster ( you can always search as well).

I've had similar issue on occasion and put in about 300ml of Seafoam in with the oil and road the bike for about 50km, it seemed to fix the issue as it hasn't come back in a few weeks. Then change the oil. Of course after adding Seafoam, you still need to start the bike to ride it. Or you can try something more extreme.

How to free up a starter sprague clutch

Postby eklimek » Sat May 31, 2014 12:47 pm
The sprague rollers are high and to the left rear of the engine. Lubrication is marginal and in old low mileage Goldwings they tend to hang up and the starter spins without effect. If the rollers are rusted I doubt the following trick will work. But if it's just sludge, this takes about 2 hours to do and might save an otherwise big bill.

The concept is to immerse the sprague mechanism in solvent while spinning the starter.

Oil drained, filter replaced, fill above fill line with solvent. I used paint thinner and xylene because it was at hand.

Remove spark plugs, turn off kill switch. Turn off gas.

Solvent should be above level of starter chain with bike vertical. If in doubt fill additional solvent through blow by tube. Note the level in the oil examination window on the right hand side drops as the bike is raised vertical.

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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby Mightythordog » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:31 pm

This just happens? It's a used bike (of course it's 35 years old) over 100k and put on 5 to 8 thousand a year. But, live in Wisconsin, so I ride till it snows and get it out after frost stops. So in storage from Nov. - March. I've owned it 33 years, so this has been it's life. This has happened on on occasion in its life. Mostly cold mornings, below 35°. But, 2 days it's just been spinning.

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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby roadwanderer2 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:45 pm

i know this isn't gonna sound right, but sometimes my 83 1100 starter will do the same thing and this is what i do, not saying you can do it also, but, here goes.......put your kill switch to run, turn the key on, press the starter button like you would when you go to start the bike up. when the starter spins free, let it wind down on its own and try to start it again. when the starter spins and doesn't engage the motor, let it stop itself. you'll know when the starter clutch engages, you'll hear a loud "clunk". once you hear that "clunk", the starter should engage on your next attempt to start the bike up. it might take a few times to get the starter to engage, but when it does, you should be able to start the bike up. this only happens to mine when the temperature is below 40*F, other than that, once it gets warm, you shouldn't have any problems starting your bike up.

i tried the sea foam thing twice already and it didn't fix the problem and i refuse to pull everything apart to get to the starter clutch. i just deal with it.

stuart.

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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby RBGERSON » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:07 am

Only real fix is to pull the engine and clean( or replace the springs and roller) the start clutch. but the sea foam cleaning may work, hanging a light near the starter clutch area over night to keep it warm, wife's hair dryer on high pointed at the clutch for a few minutes???, or this drill and add a port to squirt cleaner directly at the rollers.




HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby Mightythordog » Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:13 am

I know of this clunk you speak of, and you know it will start on the next try. I wasn't getting it. BUT, update. Heated it up a bit (we have been in the 30's and 40's here) and after more than a few try's, it's running! So, I will just heat things up a bit until fall. Thanks.

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Re: Starter spins, don't start bike

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:43 pm

glad to hear you finally got your bike to fire up. it will do once in a while when the engine is cold, but not all the time. once the motor gets warm, you shouldn't have too much trouble with it especially during the summer months when the temps are over 60*F.

stuart.




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