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Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby pschweitzer » Wed May 25, 2016 8:18 am



Moving my '83 GL100i last evening I noticed my rear brake was dragging and then it locked up. When I checked the rear master I found no fluid. I have not noticed any leaking but I have had the master run dry before and I think it may be from the rear caliper since that has never been rebuilt (the front ones have by a mechanic about 3 years ago). I rebuilt the rear master about 2 years ago but I bet the return hole is plugged as well so might as well rebuild both. I'll know more about where the fluid is going when I pull both master and caliper. If I remember it doesn't take that long. I have not changed the brake pads myself on this bike, so when I looked online for new pads I noticed a lot of different pads and prices. Anything I should know or stay away from? The rebuild kits will probably be K&L from Bike Bandit.



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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Wed May 25, 2016 7:54 pm

pschweitzer wrote:Moving my '83 GL100i last evening I noticed my rear brake was dragging and then it locked up. When I checked the rear master I found no fluid. I have not noticed any leaking but I have had the master run dry before and I think it may be from the rear caliper since that has never been rebuilt (the front ones have by a mechanic about 3 years ago). I rebuilt the rear master about 2 years ago but I bet the return hole is plugged as well so might as well rebuild both. I'll know more about where the fluid is going when I pull both master and caliper. If I remember it doesn't take that long. I have not changed the brake pads myself on this bike, so when I looked online for new pads I noticed a lot of different pads and prices. Anything I should know or stay away from? The rebuild kits will probably be K&L from Bike Bandit.


I always used EBC pads on my 1100. They are a bit soft and create a lot of dust, but they worked OK. On my GL1500 I switched to Honda OEM, and will probably not use anything else.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:07 pm

What's the best type of brake pad? Ceramic, sintered, semi-sintered, Organic? I sure don't know.

Are EBC the best place to buy or OEM?

I need to get some & not sure what kind or where to gettem?

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Postby cbx4evr » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:39 am

"It´s a friggen motorcycle, it´s not supposed to be comfortable, quiet or safe. The wind noise is supposed to hurt your ears, the seat should be hard and riding it should make you s**t your pants every now and then. "

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:46 am

Got it..thank u

I may try EBC...sposed to be good & outlast OEM & b easy on rotors

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:31 pm

hap2 wrote:Got it..thank u

I may try EBC...sposed to be good & outlast OEM & b easy on rotors


EBC definitely do not outlast OEM. They are softer (which is why they are a bit easier on the rotors), which also means they create more dust, and wear out faster.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:16 pm

Ok, well, it looks like I may not need pads after all. The guy I bought it from did a whole bunch of testing & work on the bike & wrote it down. For the brakes, he wrote front 65% & rear 55%. Is that's what's left or remaining? Maybe it's just dirt on the rotor? I'm not sure, but I guess it wudn't hurt to spray the rotor with brake cleaner. Brake cleaner for cars will work, right? (Becuz, basically, it' the same kinda brakes, isn't it?

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:08 pm

hap2 wrote:Ok, well, it looks like I may not need pads after all. The guy I bought it from did a whole bunch of testing & work on the bike & wrote it down. For the brakes, he wrote front 65% & rear 55%. Is that's what's left or remaining? Maybe it's just dirt on the rotor? I'm not sure, but I guess it wudn't hurt to spray the rotor with brake cleaner. Brake cleaner for cars will work, right? (Becuz, basically, it' the same kinda brakes, isn't it?


Normally the percentage noted like that is percentage remaining.

And yes, brake cleaner for cars will work fine. I stock up in bulk every time Napa has a sale. I use that stuff for EVERYTHING - from removing brake dust, for use as a general purpose solvent to remove oil and grime, to remove oils before applying an adhesive, to lifting oil spills up off the cement floor.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:21 pm

Ok...thanks alot. I guess I can just spray it on & wipe it off without having to take anything apart. I'll just roll the bike fwd or back as needed to get all of the rotor.

Generally, how many miles are brakes good for? I'm a real easy driver when it comes to braking gearing down & / or just coasting when I can. Then I apply both brakes very easy.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:45 pm

hap2 wrote:Ok...thanks alot. I guess I can just spray it on & wipe it off without having to take anything apart. I'll just roll the bike fwd or back as needed to get all of the rotor.

Generally, how many miles are brakes good for? I'm a real easy driver when it comes to braking gearing down & / or just coasting when I can. Then I apply both brakes very easy.


How much do you weigh? How often do you carry a passenger? How fast do you normally ride? Is it hilly where you normally ride? Do you tend to downshift to slow down?

My point is, there are far too many factors at play to make a worthwhile estimate. The same brakes for one person may last 10,000 miles, and for another they could last 50,000 or more.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:54 pm

How much do you weigh? How often do you carry a passenger? How fast do you normally ride? Is it hilly where you normally ride? Do you tend to downshift to slow down?


I weight 185 lbs.
I carry a passenger about 10% of the time.
I usually go the speed limit & maybe 5% over both in town (30 mph) & highway (60 mph)
It's not hilly where I ride.
I downshift 80% of the time to slow down

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby 4wred » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:56 am

I try to not downshift alot, usually only from 5th to 2nd when i'm down to about 25 mph. Downshifting creates more clutch wear and it's alot easier to replace brake pads than a clutch!

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:27 am

true..ok, I'll cut back on the downshifting

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:25 pm

4wred wrote:I try to not downshift alot, usually only from 5th to 2nd when i'm down to about 25 mph. Downshifting creates more clutch wear and it's alot easier to replace brake pads than a clutch!


If you are downshifting properly (rev matching) then you should not be wearing your clutch at ALL.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby 4wred » Tue Jun 07, 2016 10:03 pm

WingAdmin wrote:
4wred wrote:I try to not downshift alot, usually only from 5th to 2nd when i'm down to about 25 mph. Downshifting creates more clutch wear and it's alot easier to replace brake pads than a clutch!


If you are downshifting properly (rev matching) then you should not be wearing your clutch at ALL.


Yes, if you rev match I agree but I forgot to mention I'm also lazy too :oops:

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:01 pm

True enuf..doesn't hurt being lazy..& if u can b lazy to the point where ya won't hurt ur clutch or brakes.
How?..just ride that bike the the lil ol lady from Pasadena.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:31 pm

hap2 wrote:True enuf..doesn't hurt being lazy..& if u can b lazy to the point where ya won't hurt ur clutch or brakes.
How?..just ride that bike the the lil ol lady from Pasadena.


I've been doing it so long that I do it (both bike and car) without even thinking about it. It's just automatic.

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Re: Rear Brakes and Brake Pads

Postby hap2 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:07 pm

Yeah. EVERYTHING is easy IF u know how to do it & esp IF u've done it lots.




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