Intake #3 prevents engine turnover


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Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby GoldGeezer » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:40 pm



The #3 intake valve opens too soon. Backing off the adjustment allows engine to be turned over. Timed it several times. Everything done right by manual and tips from this site but this one valve still opens either too soon or to far into head? As cylinder is getting to top dead the intake valve is opening and stops the ability to continue turning over. All done by hand. Trying to start just makes the solenoid click even with a full car battery. What is the solution?



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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby spiralout » Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:59 am

Recheck your timing belts. The right side cam pulley is out of time.

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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby GoldGeezer » Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:11 pm

Thanks. Will try again. This is my first goldwing. Probably a stupid question but every time T1 is lined up, the marks on the cam pulley are off by a half tooth. How does one get them lined up properly? The belt doesn't stretch (good thing) but can't get them lined up.

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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby GoldGeezer » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:22 pm

May have found the problem. 2 marks on right cam pulley. Was using bottom notch. Will let you know soon. Top one looks more like left side indicator.

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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby FM-USA » Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:04 pm

I read somewhere the OEM marks can appear to be 1/2 tooth off which can make you choose, tooth before or one after?

My OLD-old habit is magic marker the old belt to each timing gear before disassembly and transfer the old belts marks to the new one.
Before disassembly, double check by counting the old belts number of teeth between said marks and after marking the new belt count again the number of teeth.
NOW disassemble JUST the outer belt and do this again for the inner belt.
BE SURE TO mark INNER and OUTER belts, your tooth count could be different. I wrap the OUTER old and new belt with electrical tape.

The reason for marking both belts and tooth count before disassembly is the old belts marks MIGHT get rubbed off. You get one chance to be right or valves could/would hit a piston = EXPENSIVE!!!+! not to mention heart broken. :shock:

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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby GoldGeezer » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:13 am

Thank you all for the help. Great news. Perfect timing. Runs great. Now to put it all back together and finally get it back on the road.

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Re: Intake #3 prevents engine turnover

Postby FM-USA » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:46 am

GoldGeezer wrote:Thank you all for the help. Great news. Perfect timing. Runs great. Now to put it all back together and finally get it back on the road.

SUPER!!!+!

(Good Ol-Willie)
On the road again, can't wait to get on my Wing again. 8-)


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Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
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