1984 GL1100


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1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:07 pm



I got my dad's Goldwing, he stopped driving it 21 years ago. I'm trying to bring it back alive, the motor is not ceased, but I don't have any sparks on the plugs, where do I look for the rotor or magneto ?



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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:28 pm

Are you sure it is a 1984 GL1100? And as for no fire did you check the engine cutoff switch? But if it has been sitting for 21 years I would not even try to start until you change those timing belts and drop the oil and change that and clean the fuel system from tank to the past the fuel pump. Or have you already done all of that?
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dingdong » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:02 am

Look at this info on restarting an old wing. http://www.randakksblog.com/starting-a- ... ng-lay-up/
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:18 am

I'm sorry it is not an 84 but a 1982 Interstate. The motor turns I have cleaned the fuel tank, change the plugs and motor oil. This is my first time at trying to repair a bike, I'm a diesel mechanic on heavy equipment. Don't have the manual for bike.
Thanks for all the info.

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby ekvh » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:41 am

Sorry if it sounds too obvious, but kill switch is in 'run?' It do happen.

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:17 am

Don't want to sound stupid but what kill switch?

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:42 pm

Kill the engines! silent running... The engine cut-off switch or engine stop switch( the red lever knob on the right hand control center) with 3 positions off-run-off), is referred to sometimes as the kill switch. Activation is applied with the thumb, quicker then going for the key to stop the engine and is rarely used by riders in my opinion. So, there you are and hope that helped.
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:52 pm

Thank you for the feedback. Yes that switch is in the "On" position

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:32 pm

Terminology and slang will get us every time. Hey have you happened to have tried checking voltage to the coils yet? No points or mag, all electronic. Here in the manuals section is a wiring diagram in color for your GL. So what is the latest on the wing? Are following the randak list? Take pictures for reference.
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:29 pm

If it hasn't been run in 21 years, it MUST have the timing belts changed on it before you try to start it!

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:32 pm

so it does have coils? I did check the timing belts they are good and yes I did go through the check list. Thank you all for the good info.
This project is a real challenge, easier to work on a 20 ton truck then this. :D

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:56 am

Coils under the false tank, or shelter, or fake gas tank. So the belts were checked. okie dokie then keep us posted.
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby 4wred » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:06 am

You're rollin the dice with those timing belts,just because they look good doesn't mean they are.After sitting 21 years in that same position they develop a set in them.And since you are a mechanic you probably already know what can happen on a interference engine when a belt lets go!! Pretty much a sure thing the carbs are gonna have to be cleaned out. Check the voltage at the coils and other ignition parts,good luck.

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dingdong » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:29 am

Famous last words: I checked the belts. The belts will "look" fine. The belts need to be changed. Don't run the risk of damaging your engine. If a belt breaks there will be valve damage and possibly piston damage. Your call!
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:18 am

I did check the belts they look brand new, nice and soft not rigid at all I got sparks, it was a faulty ground. The bike only has 27,000 miles, that's why it's worth the time and money to fix.

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:27 am

Dad said he did turn the motor over from time to time and let it run a few minutes, the last time was about 3 years ago. Dad is 84 he forgets to tell me things sometimes. But the belts are in good shape. So far I changed the fork seal and put new oil, empty gas tank cleaned it and I changed the prestone and motor oil, can't wait to take it out for a ride, next year

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:16 am

Ok, yes it is worth time and money to fix, but next year to ride? Long time to wait to get that grin on your face. As you have noticed timing belts are a big issue here and just trying to protect your investment is all we are trying to do. So with the visual inspection of soft flexible no cracks rips or tares and you are happy and confident to " put it back in the dirt" then lets bust her off and make some noise.
Keep us posted.. Good find on the ground.
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dstrsmsn » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:12 pm

Thanks Redbug for your info and concern, but you ask to many questions. I have 3 days to work on the bike. Then I'm going for an overhaul on myself LOL. I need major surgery that will keep me away from garage for 3 months. Can't ride in winter here in Canada, so the first ride will be next year. Hopefully I can hear it run before I leave.
Thanks again to all you good people that wrote back

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby redbug » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:31 pm

I understand ,now. Go get overhauled and get well.
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:21 pm

dstrsmsn wrote:I did check the belts they look brand new, nice and soft not rigid at all I got sparks, it was a faulty ground. The bike only has 27,000 miles, that's why it's worth the time and money to fix.


Timing belts wear on the inside, where you can't see it. A belt that is going to break the next time you start the engine can look exactly the same as one that is almost new and will run for another 50,000 miles. Rule of thumb is, if you don't know when the belts were last changed, then change them now.

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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby dingdong » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:14 pm

We are not just blowing smoke here. You timing belts need changing no matter how hard you try to justify not doing it. We'll be waiting for your thread asking how to repair the damage from a broken belt. Good luck to you and your overhaul!
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Re: 1984 GL1100

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:44 pm

Glad to hear that you will be resurrecting a Goldwing.
And just in case you missed all the suttle hints in almost every post.....Replace the timing belts. :lol:Get a pair at NAPA..Gates belts.Cheaper than a oil change...well almost.




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