Another neutral light thread


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Another neutral light thread

Postby Monsignore » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:58 pm



Heya,
I used search and read a bunch of other GL1100 neutral switch threads. I'm gonna order a new diode for my '83 Interstate.
My post is more of a general-ish question:
Everything was working great when I brought the hack home in July. Then, I replaced the speedo drive motor and cable, which is when the brake pedal stuck.
I fixed the brake pedal and also poked at the headlight.
This poking caused my horn, brake lights, turn signals & dash lights to poop out.
I replaced the turn signal flasher with a modern one and got the blinkers going, their idiot light, and, somehow, the brake lights.
I replaced the dash lights with LEDs, but the neutral & oil lights still don't work.
I can start the bike just fine and find neutral by feel.
So, will replacing the neutral diode thingy make everything work?
What would cause the cascade of failures? My guess to that question is that it's a 33-year old bike with a mysterious 42,000mile past.



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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby RBGERSON » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:18 am

Not likely the usually failure is the switch itself is dirty..but one never knows couldn't hurt to try. There are several ways to "clean" the switch itself but the only one that is for sure is to remove it and rebuild..or replace.
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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Overdog » Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:46 pm

Did you try turning the bulbs 180 degrees and plugging them back in?

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Monsignore » Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:58 pm

Overdog, I replaced all the dash lights with LEDs and the aforementioned ones are still dark.
RBG, I will try cleaning the switch. I assume you mean... er, I actually don't know which switch you mean. On the left switch assembly? Somewhere on the engine?

My guesses why these issues occur are:
    Old bike, old problems.
    God hates me.
    Because of what I did!
    They all do that.
    Mercury is in retrograde as Saturn returns.
    I don't have fairie bells hanging off the frame and/or dollar bills twisted around the handlebars.
    And, poop happens.

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Overdog » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:57 pm

Monsignore wrote:Overdog, I replaced all the dash lights with LEDs and the aforementioned ones are still dark.
RBG, I will try cleaning the switch. I assume you mean... er, I actually don't know which switch you mean. On the left switch assembly? Somewhere on the engine?

My guesses why these issues occur are:
    Old bike, old problems.
    God hates me.
    Because of what I did!
    They all do that.
    Mercury is in retrograde as Saturn returns.
    I don't have fairie bells hanging off the frame and/or dollar bills twisted around the handlebars.
    And, poop happens.


I replaced the ones in my 83 as well. LED bulbs have a polarity...if one doesn't work, rotating it in the socket may make it work properly. With the push-in style of bulbs you can insert the bulb into the socket two ways...the right way and the wrong way! :lol:

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Monsignore » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:38 pm

Doh!

I'll check that out tomorrow. But it would be funny (ironic?) that the Neutral & Oil lights which didn't work with incandescents would also not work with LEDs.

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby RBGERSON » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:53 am

The switch is in the engine follow the wires from the gear switch on the front of the engine down low. If I recall correctly right side down low up front under a small case cover rectangle shaped with ears for the screws hard to get at w/o spreading the frame on teh GL1000's BUT here's a link for a 1100 which shows it under the front cover total different.

http://www.westernhonda.com/fiche_secti ... veh=132954

here's one from a 1000

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Overdog » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:33 pm

The switch is inside the front cover on an 83 I

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Re: Another neutral light thread

Postby Monsignore » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:25 am

I think I'm going to pass on spreading apart my bike's frame and disassembling part of the engine. First, I'd have to figure out how to decouple the sidecar, and I'd be doing all this on the curb.

Oh, and I got that diode from Parts N More referenced earlier. But I can't seem to find a matching one on the left side of my "tank."


I also replaced my front turn signals & brake lights with LEDs. And I just replaced those LEDs. The first ones were forward-facing white LEDs. I replaced them with tower-type colored LEDs. What a difference!



Red tower LED on right.


Amber tower LED on right.

And yes, in the two pics above, the forward-facing white LEDs are on the left, and they are both illuminated.

Bonus, I was able to take the "old" LEDs and use them to replace the incandescents on the sidecar.

Now, time to ride!




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