Loose Stator Bolt


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Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:02 pm



Hello to all, new member and first Goldwing. I live in a 6 month per year motorcycle season climate and can often find used bikes that need little more than a carb cleaning, I found such a bike in the form of a 1983 Interstate. After cleaning the carbs, (Thanks "Roady" for "Out
Damn Carbs Out" (I would still be trying to get the shelter off.)) the bike ran great but for a lot of valve clatter. After reviewing Wingadmin's "How to adjust valves" (THANKS!) I set out on this simple task, ya right. I ended up using the rear wheel to rotate the engine because when I tried to use the stator bolt I found it to be loose. I later figured out that cover had broken and that I was really seeing the stator bolt protruding about to where you expect hex on the cap to be. Maybe the bolt has backed that far out? The blot seems to never tighten or loosen but just spins freely I can feel the magnetic fields as I turn it so it must be turning the rotor? The hex head turns when the engine is running and it rattles at idle but quiets down above that. Any ideas?



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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby 4wred » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:34 am

Sounds like the threads are stripped on the stator bolt.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:58 am

Get threaded back in try press in as you wrench it..if that doesn't get it to catch; pull the motor get it tighten up.
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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:31 pm

When the stator bolt comes loose, it backs off until it contacts the rear cover, and will then break through the relatively thin cover. This is a common symptom of a stator bolt that has come loose.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:38 pm

Yes,Wingadmin, that is what has happened. Thanks for the verification that this can happen, that is what it looked like happened but I really don't know about Goldwings. In my case the 12mm bolt is still tight in the larger hex and that whole assembly wobbles. should I loosen or remove the 12mm hex and then try to thread the larger hex back where it belongs or does that not matter?

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby ekvh » Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:18 am

Not sure of this, so wait for others to opine, but do you have a manual? From your description, it sounds like a bearing has gone, or worse allowing the whole assembly to begin wobbling.


If so, I would say the motor is coming out, rear cover removed to see what's going on. I'd give this a day or three to see if someone else has seen this. I've never heard of this bearing going. I know of one person who skipped putting the bolt in, leaving it open.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby RBGERSON » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:19 pm

Get the cover off and then try to screw the bolt back in.a little locktight wouldn't hurt.. and get a new cover..I have some..$10 including shipping.
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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:27 am

Okay, I've had another look and it probably is just the bolt backed out. it does not feel massive enough to be turning the rotor. Curious though, that it does not pull free as though it is still threaded, but won't tighten. I guess the engine is coming out. Thanks to all. Thanks in advance for the help I will get from goldwingdocs tutorials. I just thought it would be fun to learn a little about Goldwings. I MUST be more careful what I wish for.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Sun Oct 02, 2016 8:59 pm

Iwannaride..........Looks like I might have the same problem with my 83 GL1100. I have knocking noises coming from the rear of the engine, and the stator bolt cover was missing......so now I am thinking that maybe the stator bolt worked loose and then busted right through the thin cover when the previous owner had it. I will try re-tightening the stator bolt again and see if maybe that reduces the knocking.

Do you just put the bike in gear when tightening the stator bolt, so the engine does not move in the process?

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:01 am

I saw in a steve saunders video that the torque should be 58-65 ft lb. If you use first gear to hold the engine be aware that if you do cause the rear wheel to rotate while turning the stator bolt the bike could roll forward right off of its side stand!!

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:12 pm

Iwannaride.....Well, thats what I did this morning, and I wish I had a good fat Harley dude to sit in the saddle and hold the brake lever. I didnt let her run off the kick stand, but felt like I could of applied more torque to that stator bolt. Next time I think I will try taking the bolt off and using some strong locktite on the threads.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:48 pm

I never tried it but pretty sure if you put the bike on the center stand and ratchet strap the rear wheel to it (use the shortest distance between the two) that should work.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:51 pm

Iwannaride.....hey, thats a pretty good idea...strap the rear wheel down so it cant move, and then torque the stator bolt...........of find a fat friend to sit on the bike and hold the brake.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby iwannaride » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:47 pm

Yes, after reading my last post again I realize I wasn't clear about where to strap it. You get the idea but for anyone reading this thread in the future; secure the rear wheel to the frame not the stand itself.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:35 pm

iwannaride.......Good point you just made......I can picture someone strapping the wheel to the center stand, and then they start torquing the stator bolt, causing the wheel to pull the strap, and the center stand backwards.........bike falls off stand and onto the poor feller.....not a good thing to happen.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby ekvh » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:54 pm

I believe strapping the rear wheel down and holding the brake will only be as good as the clutch allows. Another tack would be to clamp a socket to one of the bolts holding the back plates for the belt covers so the pulley cannot move. The pulley will hold the belt which will now hold the crank from turning enough to get the desired torque.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:14 pm

ekvh.......Good point that the clutch may slip before you get enough torque on the stator bolt. On my last try, the clutch was holding fine, but the rear wheel was pushing the bike forwards. So, I was doing "quick jerks" against the wrench in an attempt to apply rapid force on the bolt, which seemed to torque it pretty good. I will know if I ever hear that knocking sound again.

Your other idea......getting to the back plates/belt covers.....guess that entails taking the rear wheel off.

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:17 pm

dwight007fchr wrote:ekvh.......Good point that the clutch may slip before you get enough torque on the stator bolt. On my last try, the clutch was holding fine, but the rear wheel was pushing the bike forwards. So, I was doing "quick jerks" against the wrench in an attempt to apply rapid force on the bolt, which seemed to torque it pretty good. I will know if I ever hear that knocking sound again.

Your other idea......getting to the back plates/belt covers.....guess that entails taking the rear wheel off.


Put the bike in fifth gear instead of first. That will reduce the amount of torque getting to the rear wheel significantly, so less stress on the driveline as you're working the stator bolt (and you won't get the rear wheel pushing the bike forward).

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Re: Loose Stator Bolt

Postby dwight007fchr » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:52 pm

WingAdmin......Thats a good idea....putting her in 5th gear instead of 1st, and then torquing the stator bolt......will try that if she loosens up again.




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