Camshaft seal location?


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Camshaft seal location?

Postby Mrkania » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:49 pm



Hello. I have a 1982 gl1100. I recently did a head job on the right right side and installed it and got it on the road. It seems to run fine but once it heats up oil leaks out of the can cover and covers my boot on the highway with oil... So I took the cover off and saw that the oil is leaking from the right camshaft. So from looking at previous forums made on this site I determined that I need a camseal. It was very unclear as to where the seal actually is and I could not find a DIY on the topic. So far I took the cam sprocket off and back side of the cover I'm not sure if I should see the seal already or not. I don't know if maybe when I had my head rebuilt, they took the seal off and didn't tell me, or maybe I just have not dug deep enough to find it. But if some one could help me locate where the camseal is, or give me a link to a DIY. Thanks alot



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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby landisr » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:34 pm

I checked here: http://shop.ronayersmotorcycles.com/fic ... veh=132954

Might part numbers 7 & 16 be what you're looking for?

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby FM-USA » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:35 pm

"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby Mrkania » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:10 am

Thanks guys. But I didn't see anything that looked like the seal. I already ha done ordered. I will pick it up tomorrow at advanced auto. But my problem is trying to locate the old seal on my bike so that I can take it out and put the new one in. I just need to know what I have to disassemble in order to get to andreplace the old camshaft oil seal. Sorry for coming off so novice, but I'm pretty stumped on that part

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby dingdong » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:14 am

There is no cam shaft oil seal on the right rear head. There is one on the front but not the rear. This due to lubrication that is needed for the tach and fuel pump drive.
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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:49 pm

Basically you have to pull the head or at least loosen it.You have to pull the front lower covers, take off the right belt, and cam wheel, loosen the head..and the seal should be accessible BUT the the head gasket might not reseat well..it's a crap shoot sometimes when they haven't been seated long they will reseat sometimes not???? the seal is pinched in place between the head and block.

#21 goes into the half moons on the end of the head and block.

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby Johnyy Smoke » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:36 pm

R.B.
I don't see a reason why the head should be loosened to replace the cam seal. Remove timing belt, remove timing wheel, remove valve gasket cover , loosen valves all the way, remove the retaining bolts and remove cam.
It would be a bit easier to install if you lined up the timing marks and note position of cam before removing. Use gasket sealer on the half moons, and replace seal. Then put cam in place and tighten bolts in a staggered pattern. The correct torque for theses bolts eludes me at the moment, but it can be found easy enough. Or is the 82 different then the 80? Regards, Johnny

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby FM-USA » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:10 pm

Head and its bolts are separate from the Cam cover bolts.
Should be no need to loosen the Head bolts.


This pix looks deceiving.
Looks like the Head bolts go through the Cam cover, they shouldn't.
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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:48 am

Sorry my mistake..it's been awhile since I have been into a head..yep just loosen the cam assembly bolts.
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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby ekvh » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:18 am

If the leak is from the rear of the right (as you sit on the bike) head, it is more often a leak through the round part of cam cover or even more often the tach drive. If it were me, I would wipe it down, spray it clean, wipe it again and then start it and watch it. I've never done it, but others have even better luck using a dusting with talcum powder to speed locating the source.

I recently had what I thought was the same issue on the front even though I had just installed new cam seals. I was ready to pull them again, but cleaned them up and watched the cam with the belt covers off and it revealed it was leaking from the round portion of the cover seals which are half way round the rocker carrier. It was a piece of grit that had gotten in behind the rubber seal.

Might as well figure what exactly is leaking before throwing money and time at it.

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby FM-USA » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:50 am

ekvh wrote:Might as well figure what exactly is leaking before throwing money and time at it.

Wasn't it George Washington who taught us throw money at the other bank? :shock:

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby Mrkania » Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:13 pm

Guys thanks a lot for all the replies! This was a great deal of help! It was much note simple than I had in visioned. All I had to do was remove the cam wheel. And simply tap the new seal inside the empty space. It ends up the company who rebuilt my head took the old seal out and I did not know there was ever a seal there and I put it back together without a seal... But its all fixed now and I don't have oil gushing on my boot. Now its time to tackle my overheating problem! Thanks again for all the help

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Re: Camshaft seal location?

Postby FM-USA » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:26 am

Mrkania wrote:Guys thanks a lot for all the replies! This was a great deal of help! It was much note simple than I had in visioned. All I had to do was remove the cam wheel. And simply tap the new seal inside the empty space. It ends up
the company who rebuilt my head took the old seal out and I did not know there was ever a seal there and I put it back together without a seal... But its all fixed now and I don't have oil gushing on my boot. Now its time to tackle my overheating problem! Thanks again for all the help


(loss for words, just...)

Well maybe a few....
Some times it looks like they don't need parts where they need parts. (been there, done it)
We all have OOP moments. No damage = GOOD THING


"OIL CHANGE?" _FM 07-2009
Know its new taste and be loyal, you'll know when to change that oil.
Taste testing as the miles flow, souring as that acid grows.
And don't flirt with dirt or darkened oil, all the faster your engine will spoil.


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