Shifting Points


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Shifting Points

Post by Spaceman7015 » Sat May 06, 2017 7:53 pm



I took the old wing (1983 Interstate) out for a ride today. It seems to want to shift around 2750. Any and all comments welcome.
What is the best shift point?



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Re: Shifting Points

Post by cyberlon » Sat May 06, 2017 10:32 pm

Shift out of second gear before you hit 100mph. I watched a video of a racer on a Ducati 1299 that did this within 4 seconds. Too bad his bike has a rev limiter that kept him at a top speed of 192mph on the long straightaway course. I know this doesn't give an answer to your question, just my way of chucking in $.02 :geek:

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by roadwanderer2 » Sun May 07, 2017 6:11 am

i would say it would be up to the person riding the bike and the situation he's in. if your wanting to go slow, you can shift early. if you're pulling into traffic, you might want to let the motor go up to a higher rpm before shifting into a higher gear to gather up some speed before settling into the traffic pattern.

there is a page in your owner's manual that gives a "manufactures recommendation" for shifting at what speeds and rpm's. with me, personally, i shift mine at what i need to at any given point in time, road, and traffic conditions.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by Corkster52 » Sun May 07, 2017 8:07 am

Unread postby roadwanderer2 » Sun May 07, 2017 7:11 am

i shift mine at what i need to at any given point in time, road, and traffic conditions
Same here

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by RBGERSON » Sun May 07, 2017 8:34 am

These bikes like to run at at least 3,000-3500 if not a little higher I shift around 4,000 in the first three gears then once in fourth run her out a bit more before 5th. Putting around town I kept her above 3,000-3500 in second or third
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Re: Shifting Points

Post by RoadRogue » Sun May 07, 2017 1:32 pm

The 1100 doesn't start making real power till after 3000 rpm. Shifting early just lugs the engine ,let it spin. The redline is up at 8000 and will running all day at this rpm, now I am not saying you should keep it redlined all the time but the engine engine will do it.
Let it spin, you will be surprised at just how much zip these old girls have. My favorite is to pull out to pass someone at 60mph ,drop it to 3rd gear and roll on hard. Shifting to 4th at the redine and you are well past the vehicle you were looking to get by, and you still have one more gear if you need it. This is great for limiting the time spent near that Semi's many tires that are just waiting to come apart and take you out.
Sure the motor sounds like it's screaming at 8000rpm but as long as you have a good set of timing belts it will last, after all Mother Honda put the redline there to protect her design from over reving by the owner. Feel free to use all of the tach it will help keep the carbon build up in the cylinders down. 8-)
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Re: Shifting Points

Post by indianakid » Sun May 07, 2017 9:09 pm

since I was using the Wing to run some errands this morning and had read your post the night before thought I would pay attention to the tach as i merged onto the 605 south. Saw it pass 7.5K as I shifted into second and third. normally I dont look at the tach as i merge into traffic which on a Sunday morning is light and running fast (70 - 80+ mph) because there are more important things to pay attention to. I agree with RoadRogue reving to the red line (8K) aint gonna hurt the engine.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by roadwanderer2 » Mon May 08, 2017 5:43 am

as with any engine thats 30 years old or older, i personally would be a little leary taking the rpm's to the max in fear of the motor exploding unless the motor has been completely rebuilt from top to bottom or has very low mileage on it, but thats just MY personal opinion. yours may vary.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by spiralout » Thu May 11, 2017 12:17 am

roadwanderer2 wrote:as with any engine thats 30 years old or older, i personally would be a little leary taking the rpm's to the max in fear of the motor exploding unless the motor has been completely rebuilt from top to bottom or has very low mileage on it, but thats just MY personal opinion. yours may vary.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu May 11, 2017 6:09 am

spiralout wrote:
roadwanderer2 wrote:as with any engine thats 30 years old or older, i personally would be a little leary taking the rpm's to the max in fear of the motor exploding unless the motor has been completely rebuilt from top to bottom or has very low mileage on it, but thats just MY personal opinion. yours may vary.

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thats ok, your entitled to your opinion. if you feel comfortable doing it, its your bike's motor. im just saying i wouldn't do it.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by ekvh » Thu May 11, 2017 6:31 am

I was leery too, but after getting a second Wing, I started to push the envelope a bit with one and found out that if you're keeping the revs down, you're not even close to where these bikes make their power. (Same as most Japanese bikes of their era.)

Take them on the interstate and you're going to have them rev. I think the 83 must be near 5k at 80mph. They take 5k all day.

If they don't, something was not right. If the bike is in tune, they are remarkably well balanced machines. They are not built to be driven around at Harley rpm. Different machines altogether. They make a bit of noise to the operator, but when you watch and listen to another go by, they're pretty tame sounding unless you've opened up the exhaust.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by roadwanderer2 » Thu May 11, 2017 1:47 pm

I can agree with you on that ekvh. these bikes do seem to run nice on the interstate between 4500 and 5000 rpm's. My 1st Goldwing was my 83 aspencade and it would run all day long at those rpm's especially when i rode it down to the florida keys twice without skipping a beat at a 6 hour run with only a few 15 minute rest stop breaks and that bike had over 110,XXX miles on it. Now my 86 1200 SEi will do the same thing now that it's in tip top shape motor and electrical wise at 83,XXX miles. The other day i did a quick 160 mile run down the interstate and kept the revs up around the same rpm's and it handled flawlessly both engine and ride comfort. I can now say its "road worthy" enough to ride it down to the florida keys next month and back. If everything goes according to plans, i will be leaving here on the 10th of june,(a day after my 63rd birthday) and i'll be staying down there and returning on july 4th.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by Spaceman7015 » Sat May 13, 2017 5:26 pm

Thank you all for your input. You are right, took the old Wing out a little while ago and did a lot of different shifting. She does much better 3000 - 3500.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by spiralout » Sat May 13, 2017 10:14 pm

That's better but you're still babying it.

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Re: Shifting Points

Post by dingdong » Sun May 14, 2017 6:30 am

Since we are all expressing our opinions.....I literally never ride my 76 without taking her through the gears to redline in all gears but 5th at least once and usually many times during the ride. Been doing this for the last 14 years. She's a tough old bird. Never tried to exceed redline but she is still pulling hard at 8500 rpm. Zoom Zoom. Normally I try to keep it above 3000rpm.


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