Backing up 83 Goldwing


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Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:10 pm



Today I was initiated in the process of trying to back-up this heavy 83 Goldwing Interstate. Did someone remove the Reverse Gear from my bike? I heard the "beeping sound.....beep, beep, beep, beep....", but the heavy Honda did not co-operate in easing her behind backwards. Maybe that "beep, beep, beep, beep" was my heart beating away in this huge effort to push her backward while seated in the throne. I was on paved surface, and the slope was very minimal, and I could only push a few feet......I had to get off and push from the side where I could heave alot harder.

Any suggestions from long-time owners as to how to more effeciently back up these heavy beasts? (Although a beautifully sweet beast......more sweet when cruising forward.)

One idea......I have the tow hitch on the rear-end. So, I could add an aftermarket electric winch kit, and just tie-off to a pole or something and then use the winch to ease backwards.

Guess I will have to check my brakes and make sure there is not excessive drag.....seems that my last Honda 750 Super Sport was much easier to back-up (but that was many years ago).

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby RoadRogue » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:58 am

I make sure I park where I dont have to back her up ,unless I can use gravity to do the work for me.Otherwise you need a passenger to help pull back,easier to park in a better place.Just learn to read the lay of the land.
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby cbach1981 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:47 am

my 83 Interstate doesn't even have reverse. Didn't know some did come with it on that model. i thought maybe the aspy would have it but never used one so i wouldn't know for sure. I agree with the park so gravity works for you method, although I have fought to roll the beast uphill backwards a time or twenty my self. Might buy your plans for the winch setup if you can pull it off. Please be sure to post pics so we can see! lol!!! Also, might come in handy trying to pull jeeps from mudholes if you put the right tire on the bike! :D :lol:
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:20 am

1100 wings don't have reverse ( except what you provide ) and if you think an 1100 wing is heavy try backing up a 1500 wing on an incline
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby wingit11 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:09 am

They can be a heavy beast to back up an incline no mater how slight. You may want to check your brake calipers and see if they are dragging. That will only add to the rolling resistance.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:22 am

cbach1981 wrote:my 83 Interstate doesn't even have reverse. Didn't know some did come with it on that model. i thought maybe the aspy would have it but never used one so i wouldn't know for sure. I agree with the park so gravity works for you method, although I have fought to roll the beast uphill backwards a time or twenty my self. Might buy your plans for the winch setup if you can pull it off. Please be sure to post pics so we can see! lol!!! Also, might come in handy trying to pull jeeps from mudholes if you put the right tire on the bike! :D :lol:


Cbach...........Hey, you are more of a comedian than I am.....ha haaaa ha ha. I was joking about that "beep-beep-beep" noise and implying my back-up gear was not working. No backup gear on my heavy 83 Interstate. The electric winch idea was half-joking, but upon more reflection and some positive feedback, its something I could easily rig-up. What type of "mud-grip" tire would you reccomend for pulling stuck jeeps out of mudholes? Maybe an old John Deere tractor tire?

I also invisioned a small electric motor with a "grip head" which could be spring activated and would pop over and rub against the rear tire sidewall (like a small electric generator on bicycles), and then you could flip a switch and cause it to rotate, making the rig to go backwards. If you are pushing with your feet at the same time, it might work. I would hate to be cruisin down the highway and that jerry-rigged thing pops down and rubs/blows out the tire. So, best keep her stock and leave well-enough alone. Will try to plan ahead before I stop.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:25 am

detdrbuzzard wrote:1100 wings don't have reverse ( except what you provide ) and if you think an 1100 wing is heavy try backing up a 1500 wing on an incline


Buzzard.......nice name...ha ha. I an only imagine your pain/suffering trying to man-handle your 1500 backwards. You must weigh in around 900 lbs? (The Wing, not you.....ha haaaaa)

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:25 am

wingit11 wrote:They can be a heavy beast to back up an incline no mater how slight. You may want to check your brake calipers and see if they are dragging. That will only add to the rolling resistance.


Yep......my next "to do"......check for dragging brakes. Thanks.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:29 am

RoadRogue wrote:I make sure I park where I dont have to back her up ,unless I can use gravity to do the work for me.Otherwise you need a passenger to help pull back,easier to park in a better place.Just learn to read the lay of the land.


Yep......will learn to park facing up hill so gravity can be my "mule" for backing up. I wonder who can share the most embarrasing story about being stuck facing downhill and unable to get out?

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:17 pm

Be creative. I have no qualms about "off-roading" my bike up over curbs and across dirt or grass in order to avoid having to back up an incline. GL1100's will easily clear curbs without any damage.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby cbach1981 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:37 pm

LOL, creative!! Had an old Kawasaki 400 when I was 13. Put knobby's on it and went out thru the woods on it, Most comfortable dirtbike around at the time, other than it was air cooled, and I wore shorts mostly. Still have burn scars from laying it down a time or two. Exhaust pipes got hot quick trying to manuver that beast around on trails. LOL!!!
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:55 pm

cbach and Wingman.........Yes, I will have to become more creative, and try hopping over some curbs instead of working too hard by backing her up. Will price the knobby tires when I need new ones........ha, but doesnt mean I will buy them.

cbach.....gotta love that old Kow 400 used as a dirt bike......that was alot of power for a 13 yr old! Im sure those burn marks bring back great memories.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby detdrbuzzard » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:56 pm

dwight007fchr wrote:
detdrbuzzard wrote:1100 wings don't have reverse ( except what you provide ) and if you think an 1100 wing is heavy try backing up a 1500 wing on an incline


Buzzard.......nice name...ha ha. I an only imagine your pain/suffering trying to man-handle your 1500 backwards. You must weigh in around 900 lbs? (The Wing, not you.....ha haaaaa)

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i have a parking spot in my yard for the wings but i have to back on to it across grass to get to the parking slab. lets just say that the 1200 wing feels more like a 750 after parking the 1500 and yes my 1500 does have reverse but have you looked at the price ofa starter for a 1500se? you wouldn't use reverse either with prices like that
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby cbach1981 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:15 pm

dwight007fchr wrote:cbach.....gotta love that old Kow 400 used as a dirt bike......that was alot of power for a 13 yr old! Im sure those burn marks bring back great memories.

dc



LOL, I know! Way to much for a teen. That why I have the burn scars, aka lessons in keeping the shiny side up. :lol: :D
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:12 pm

DrBuzzard.....Yep, I bet an electric winch mounted below your tow hitch would be far cheaper than the cost of a new Wing starter. In the mean time, I guess going without will keep us in better shape.

CBach........Yep, and I dont think my body will take those dirt-bike crashes like it did in my younger years.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby reoband » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:08 pm

i wonder if someone could make a gear box to go on the drive shaft just for forward or reverse?

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby lbman » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:21 am

Hi
I think an ANTI Gravity device would be cheeper.
had the same problem with Gravity on my 1990 FLHTC
NO beep beep, No Anti Gravity
the only thing harder than pushing a wing in a crowded parking lot is...Doing it with Grace And Dignity .
I had slick boots on once. hit a little oil spot and down goes me and bike..
OH YA ! Gravity also counts Side To Side
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby 81iwingpa » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:36 am

I just got a New to me 1981 1100I after learing to ride on a 1978 Honda Hawk CB400 and i am realizing the weight of her is a little much. And also to make sure she is in nutral before i try to move her even with the cluch in.
But man it is nice to ride on the roads around here i still have some getting use to do.. but fun.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Mon May 16, 2011 10:20 pm

81iwingpa wrote:I just got a New to me 1981 1100I after learing to ride on a 1978 Honda Hawk CB400 and i am realizing the weight of her is a little much. And also to make sure she is in nutral before i try to move her even with the cluch in.
But man it is nice to ride on the roads around here i still have some getting use to do.. but fun.



Yep.....I am in the same boat.......many years ago when I was still barely out of my teen years I bought a nice used 1978 Honda 750Four Super Sport......love that bike! 30 years later, I once again get the itch, and at first thought this 83 1100 Interstate was a bit too heavy.....but now, I am getting used to its rideability, and with time will feel as confortable as I did years ago on that wee-little 750Four.

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby lbman » Tue May 17, 2011 5:56 am

In all seriousness. I leave side stand down, left hand on left handlebar right hand on tourpac backrest and use right leg against rear crash bar. this method seems to work best for me.
where i wheel up around too where i park , in RV shed. Gravel surface , soft wet gravel. I found that If I make Loud grunting and groaning sounds it helps too. If I began too push with out making these sounds my wing won't move. Had a horse like that once.
One thing that was recommended is the Advanced Rider safety course. As of Yet I can't seem to schedule a time for myself. geez,
so , what I did and still do is , go to our local parking lot (no one there) and start riding in and out of parking spaces as tight as I can. I also make it a game when waiting for a light in traffic to see how long I can keep bike up without putting feet down. I've also located where they teach the course and used there markings to ride in and out of. this helped a Lot! You can find how they do the course on U Tube. to see how its done.
The wing handles different than my 90 FLHTC Harley did. on a Harley you are more on top of the bars. My Harley buddies call wings "Riding Easy Chairs"
My last bike of 10 years was a R90/7 BMW. all of 400 pounds. so the wing is double that. Makes a difference for sure. but I have really grown on My Wing. added the progressive shocks front and back. adding a fork brace, oh and a biggie. replaced bent forks. it handles like a dream now. I am looking forward to many miles of trouble free riding.
take care and Enjoy Life.
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby dwight007fchr » Tue May 17, 2011 8:46 am

LB......Yep....just like weight-lifting....gotta emit loud guttorial sounds in order to make the weights know your serious about moving them.....and maybe your Wing just thinks you are whispering sweet-nuttins to her. Im sure it helps.......as long as the neighbors dont call 911.

Good idea about practicing in empty parking lots.....better yet with those cones. I have watched some of the Youtube videos of crazzy riders taking their Wings to the limit along winding, hilly roads........and I tell you, I have no intention of risking myself or others by driving like that. I would rather baby the throttle and see if I can get over 60mpg.

Good to see you can "enjoy life" while grunting and riding in an "easy chair".

What are progressive shocks for? Thats one thing that I notice....that the front end on my Interstate seems a bit choppy. I checked the air pressure, and it was way up to about 30lbs....reduced it back down to about 15, and I think that helped. Got any tips on how to determine if the front shocks are bad? Fork brace........is that something that mounts above the front fender?

Another dumb question for you.......Roll Starting a Wing..........I am sporting around with a somewhat "tired" battery, and just to practice, I tried roll-starting her......used 2nd gear, and she fired right up. Is this a bad idea on these bikes? I carry along a pair of jumper cables just in case (yea...just incase another biker needs a jump start...ha ha).
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby KHAWK » Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:54 am

The one thing I have found is when backing up I always keep my hand on the front brake. Reason being is the dam thing always wants to role back it were I started from! ;)

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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby HawkeyeGL1200 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:57 pm

I guess being long-legged has its advantages. I just push back with my feet, gripping the front brake if I need a break or if the bike tends to want to roll forward again between pushes.. and take my time... no need to hurry and lose balance or strain something.

Like many of the others mentioned, I always try to pick my spot when stopping, so backing is unnecessary or I stop on a slight incline, so gravity does the hard part for me. I have an inclined place I always park at work, facing the building I work in, and when it is time to leave, all I have to do is shift into neutral, straighten the bike up, ease off the front brake and roll back gently.

I never had much trouble backing lighter bikes I've owned, and although the "Wing" is a lot heavier, I just back slower and more deliberately when the situation requires me to back it up... takes a little practice, but I've never felt like I would want or need "reverse" on a motorcycle (yet).
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby ricconhan » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:30 pm

You guys have all got a lot to learn about backing up a heavy Goldwing. ..I'm a 60 year old man who has been riding a bike for the better part of 50 years. In all those years I have gained vast amounts of knowledge and experience, one such area of knowledge is the ease of backing my heavy Goldwing from places maybe I shouldn't have parked in ( front end being lower than the back for instance. ....duh...and only one way out, backwards ) now for my brilliant solution and almost effortless system of getting out of this situation.
Now as I mentioned, I am 60 years old, but I'm married to a knockout beautiful 54 year old woman who also loves to ride. When I find myself in this predicament I find a place not too far from the bike in question and pretend to not be associated with the bike or its beautiful rider. She then seeks the aid of the first strong young man to come along and is more than happy to help this good looking gal get her bike out of the situation it is in, after said bike is backed out of the place I shouldn't have parked in the first place, I walk over and get on thank the young man and we are on our way. .....we may not get smarter as we grow older but we do learn how to get ourselves out of certain situations.. and it's a lot quieter and less expensive than any other reverse gear I could find on the market.
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Re: Backing up 83 Goldwing

Postby roadwanderer2 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:47 pm

I don't know about your older wings, but just for the hell of it, I took my '83 aspy to my friends scrap yard last week and ran it across the scales, and with all the extras on it and a full tank of fuel, it weighed in at 972 pounds. and that's without my 185lb utility trailer hooked to the back or me sitting on it. wish I had a reverse on mine :). thank GOD my garage is on a down hill angle, makes backing out very convenient lol.

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