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special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:15 pm



I have learned that there are a few special tools needed to disassemble certain parts like your swingarm and your clutch, many of these special tools can be made by hand, there's a guy on Sanders site that made one for the swingarm that I like, any of you guys make these? I was able to loosen that lock nut on the swingarm with a piece of flat stock cut to fit the gap tightly and I just popped it once with a hammer and it loosened it[counterclockwise] but I need the tool to torque it proper when I put it back together...there are guy's out there that beat the hell out of that lock nut with a screwdriver and or cold chisels ect,[foolishness] because they don't have the special tool...How many of you guy's have done this? Confession time..How many of you guys don't torque the pivot special nut to specs. when reassembling the swingarm ..? Tell the truth..


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Re: special tools

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:45 pm

I take sockets and grind them down so that the metal left behind forms "prongs" that fit into the appropriate places.

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You can see them in use on How to replace your front wheel bearings and a couple other articles I wrote, I believe.

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Re: special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:00 pm

Here is a photo of what this guy made, pretty smart dude, does anyone have a photo of the original tool for the swingarm locknut.?
I hope he doesn't mind me using his photo..I tried contacting him but couldn't reach him..The reason for the open back is so you can get a allen wrench in to hold the pivot collar in place while torqueing down the lock nut, if not it could turn with the locknut, not good for the bearings I don't guess..

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Re: special tools

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:08 pm

That's a great tool. When I did mine, I marked the inner allen key portion to ensure it didn't move while torquing the outer nut - and to my surprise, it worked. It's not as perfect as the tool you showed in the picture, but it's close.

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Re: special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:24 pm

Yeh, I'm curious if it's like the original tool, I'd love to see the original one if anyone has photo's of it pretty please as I'm considering making a my own as well, I hear the original tool is about 60 shells if you can still order it..I thought of just welding a 1/2" socket to the side of the larger pipe really well instead of the flat piece he has there..Anyone have any other ideas..??

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Re: special tools

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:12 pm

You could take a piece of flat stock, drill a hole in it to fit the allen key through, then weld the socket to the flat stock over top of the hole, like he did. Then, instead of cutting a hole to take a square drive, just weld another socket next to it, with the square drive facing outward. That will give more surface area to the weld, and put it under less stress than trying to weld two sockets together side by side.

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Re: special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:46 pm

Pretty good idea there Wingadmin.. I have given this some thought and I got a idea, now only if it works, as you know once hand tight the nut doesn't move that much more, maybe a 1/2" inch or maybe 3/4" if that much, ok, if you use a L shaped allen wrench you could notch out a deepset impact socket with a 1/2 drive to fit your torque wrench, notch it about half way across the center of the socket so the allen wrench can be inserted and has plenty of room and play when turned, so you can hold the allen while torqueing the nut..I bet it would work, you can always shorten the allen wrench if need be to fit in the center of the socket.. It would be plenty strong still even with a notch out.... I placed a 30mm socket on the opening and it was a tad to large so I'm thinking of trying the next smaller size and it will work, I'm gonna try this idea and let you know if it works or if it fails..You would have to set the pivot collar bolt with a straight socket type allen first to set the correct torque, then use the L shaped one just to keep it from moving while torqueing the locknut..Cool..Think it will work? Crazy Right.. :D

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Re: special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:19 am

My socket idea worked as planned, just cut out a window in the socket for the L shaped allen, works good..29 mm impact socket or 28 mm will work great if you are making your own the only difference is that the 29 mm will fit the hole just right , 28 fits the nut better, they both will work.. The hole is 1- 5/8" tight if I remember correctly...So you are thinking of making a tool...I placed painters tape over the top of a socket and down halfway, cover the whole top, mark it out with the nut if you have it off or make a perfect chris cross and go to work..I used a dremel with the special heavy duty metel cut off wheel does a professional job..Grinders are great too.. :D One other thing, its' important you center your chris cross cuts perfectly..

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Re: special tools

Postby littlebeaver » Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:36 pm

Another special tool is the old trusty Circlip tool, I removed my swingarm here lately and needed to remove the circlip, i could have remove the one in front But I found its easier to remove the one in the rear even though its way in there, I went to Harbor freight and got one of those long needle nose pliers with the orange handles and made my own circlip tool, you will need to grind down at least 1/2" deep from the tip to clear the end of the shaft, be sure to bend the tips out so they look pigeon toed and the clip will come right out, use a light, or just undo the clip in front of shaft to remove..I use the long curved needlenose pliers for circlips in other locations..I used my dremel to make these..I'm too cheap to buy a expensive good set..




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