GL1100 Oil Question


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GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:09 pm



I have been useing CAM2 15 40 diesel oil and has been working good in my 83 Goldwing Aspencade. Thinking about a synthetic oil. I think the previous owner was running Mobil 1. Why should I change and what is the benifets of doing so. Tried Amsoil once in a Honda Silverwing and it seemed like the engine had more noise like it was loose or something. Also thinking of changing the final drive to synthetic . Any thoughts on that? Any one useing Engine Ice/Blue Ice coolant? Any good?



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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:35 pm

I've never used anything but Valvoline motorcycle oil in my 1100, and never had any complaints. Going to synthetic gear oil in the rear drive is an excellent idea however, as it's subject to extreme shear pressure. I've also never had any cooling problems, so haven't had the need to look at any exotic cooling products. If it works...why mess with it? :)

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:28 pm

Just a regular 10w 40 Valvoline automotive oil?

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:29 am

dweeks34 wrote:Just a regular 10w 40 Valvoline automotive oil?


No, motorcycle oil:

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby t2oldbikes » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:24 am

My understanding of automotive synthetic oils is that you should never use the 10w-30 in a bike as the friction enhancers make the clutch slip. As far as 10w-40 synthetic, I don't know if that applies. Mobil 1 used to make a 15w-50 which I tried in my old KLR-650 and was very happy with, no clutch problems.
When I first got my GL1100i the previous owner said he had synthetic in it. I had a fair amount of clutch chatter leaving lights but I don't know which synthetic he used. Went to Rotella T on my first change and then switched to the Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle oil. No problems with it and it feels as if the clutch action is smoother since using it.
When these bikes were first designed, I don't know if there was such a thing as "motorcycle oil" around and people probably just used regular auto oils or diesel oils. I really don't know if synthetic is worth it or not in an older bike but would not speak out against it. Automotive oils have changed greatly through the years and the clean diesel oils are changing that equation.
My only quibble with the Valvoline is how it is overpriced compared to regular auto oils, but I imagine the super special ingredients must cost extra.
The Valvoline or a good diesel (Rotella,Delvac,Valvoline) will all serve you well.

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:29 am

That sounds great. I was just at the dealer and even he didnt think much of the synthetic oils either. He said it may make it run a little cooler but probably not enough to tell. I am switching my coolant to Engine Ice. Have heard good things about this coolant. My bike was running a little hotter then I would like it to and that could be from running the heavier 15w 40 diesel oil. I'm going with the Valvoline 10w 40 and see what it does for me. Thanks for all the info.

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby detdrbuzzard » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:04 pm

i was told engine ice should not be mixed with antifreeze which could be a problem if you are a couple states from home and have to top off the radiator for some reason and can't find engine ice. oil. all my bikes have castrol m/c oil in them
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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:02 pm

Good thought. Thats true. They cant be mixed. As long as its above freezing I can top off with water to get me home. Castrol is a very good oil. I used to use it in my autos. After oil got so high I switched to wal-marts brand. Its bottled by Penzoil I was told. Been useing it for several years in a car thats closing in on 200k. Good stuff, for wal-mart. If they offered a m/c oil I would use it.

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:04 pm

How do you guys get your picture beside of your post? Thats cool. I'm new to this and havent figured it out yet, lol

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby WingAdmin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:04 pm

dweeks34 wrote:How do you guys get your picture beside of your post? Thats cool. I'm new to this and havent figured it out yet, lol


Just click here: Upload Avatar and upload whatever picture you want to use.

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby bobalooby1 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:23 pm

dweeks34 wrote:I have been useing CAM2 15 40 diesel oil and has been working good in my 83 Goldwing Aspencade. Thinking about a synthetic oil. I think the previous owner was running Mobil 1. Why should I change and what is the benifets of doing so. Tried Amsoil once in a Honda Silverwing and it seemed like the engine had more noise like it was loose or something. Also thinking of changing the final drive to synthetic . Any thoughts on that? Any one useing Engine Ice/Blue Ice coolant? Any good?

Use the grade of oil your '83 specifies for the engine. I too use 15/40 oil but it's Rotella "T".. in my '83 interstate. Synthetic oil will give your final drive the best protection there.. Synthetic in the engine may be to slick. possibly causing clutch slippage. Stay with the engine oil you use now. Your fine with that! And stick with prestone 50/50 mix for your coolant. It has to be silicate free in order to not damage your water pump over time. and a good flush every two years is an excellent preventive measure. dont use chemicals to flush it. just water will do. your bikes cooling system cannot be compared to an automobiles cooling system. it's not the same. Ride Safe... :D

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby bobalooby1 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:40 pm

dweeks34 wrote:That sounds great. I was just at the dealer and even he didnt think much of the synthetic oils either. He said it may make it run a little cooler but probably not enough to tell. I am switching my coolant to Engine Ice. Have heard good things about this coolant. My bike was running a little hotter then I would like it to and that could be from running the heavier 15w 40 diesel oil. I'm going with the Valvoline 10w 40 and see what it does for me. Thanks for all the info.

better make "sure' the engine ice you mentioned is a "Silicate free" coolant! or you can go buy yourself a water pump now. Truth!

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby bobalooby1 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:47 pm

dweeks34 wrote:I have been useing CAM2 15 40 diesel oil and has been working good in my 83 Goldwing Aspencade. Thinking about a synthetic oil. I think the previous owner was running Mobil 1. Why should I change and what is the benifets of doing so. Tried Amsoil once in a Honda Silverwing and it seemed like the engine had more noise like it was loose or something. Also thinking of changing the final drive to synthetic . Any thoughts on that? Any one useing Engine Ice/Blue Ice coolant? Any good?

Dont use any coolant that is not silicate free! '83 wings need '83 yr model fluids. Period! if it aint broke, why fix it?

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby dweeks34 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:19 am

I went with Valvoline 10w 40 oil and an antifreeze like Engine Ice for streetbikes that was recomended by my Honda dealer. Its a local company in Roanoke, Va. and the product is called Liquid Perfromance Street Bike Coolant & Antifreeze. www.liquidperformance.com 1-800-217-7435. It was $18.95 for a 1/2 gallon (64oz) through my dealer which is only a couple bucks higher than Hondaline antifreeze. Yes thats high but worth it to keep your bike cool. This stuff is awesome. It says it can make your bike run up to 50 deg cooler and it works! I think you can get it through Parts Unlimited dealers or try my dealer www.frontlinemotorsports.com in Christiansburg, Va.

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby bobalooby1 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:10 pm

dweeks34 wrote:Just a regular 10w 40 Valvoline automotive oil?

YES! just regular 10w40 motor oil.... Stay within specs. And you'll have plenty of smiles to go with the miles!

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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby GW-Newbie2013 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:03 am

Hi, I have been reading these posts about using synthetic oil in the Goldwing. I have a 1982 GL1100A and was considering changing the oil and replacing it with synthetic but it seems as though it would cause issues with the clutch. am I reading this right? I know the question has probably been answered, I just want to be ABSOLUTELY sure before I go and spend the money to do this.
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Re: GL1100 Oil Question

Postby carl langendorf » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:04 pm

i have an 82 gl110i and i tried the synthetic oil and had nothing but issues with it, in fact i put on maybe 50 miles before changing it back to just a 10w40 oil, i used a higher thicker gear oil in the final drive and it works great, i have had a couple issues but nothing to do with the oil or the final drive oil, i had to change the shocks, ran into a problem with that but fixed it easily, had an issue with one of my starter bolts breaking off in the block but with the help of this forum got that fixed easily and quickly. and im back on the road with over 5k miles since mid may 8-)




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