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oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:47 am



yep cant get it off. any ideas?



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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby WingAdmin » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:48 am

Is this the bolt holding the oil filter housing? Have you stripped it off?

If so, I think the best option is to order a new one (they're easily available at most OEM new parts vendors), then take a pair of vice-grips to the old one to get it off.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:57 pm

thats what i prob will do. Hal mentioned to get the engine running and see if it heated up will allow to the metal to expand. Alsoo.... Heres somethign for u guys. When I start the bike in first. It bogs down reall bad at first. I have to pull the clutch back in and give it a lot more gas. Any idea? I put premium gas in it and ran it for a little bit. Still seems to be doing tho.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby HALBUDD » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:49 pm

tallman I was thinking about our talk today you might try using an impact wrench to try and break it lose, just a thought Hal
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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby imfree » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:06 am

Sounds like you have a float problem with your carb you need to find out what kind of carb you you have so you can find the specs.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:13 am

Yea its a conversion to a single carb. I think im gonna spray it with carb cleaner.take it off if i need to

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby miroku800 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:35 am

tallman21 wrote:yep cant get it off. any ideas?

if you get really stuck and the bolt wont come with the grips or anything there is a way that I found but it is a bit of a chore
Drain the water and remove the water pump cover, this removes the 'stops' that lock the whole filter housing and I found I could turn the whole shebang and wind the bolt out that way it only took both hands on the housing and it turned easily, then once it was off the old bolt came out of the housing no bother
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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby imfree » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:37 am

Put a pipe wrench on it and kick it,It will come off,Just remember righty tighty lefty lucy.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:59 am

did that im free, also used the lock wrench, apparantly the bold is made of some really soft material cause neither one will take it off as it just keeps eating the bolt head away Ill take a picture in a min to show u.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby imfree » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:20 am

If the bolt is getting chewed get a big pipe wrench put it on the filter housing and jump on it if it breaks the housing let me know and I will send you another one.Joe

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:57 am

that is going to be one huge wrench... and here is that picture


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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:27 am

The problem with using a large wrench or strap wrench on the oil filter housing is that it is prevented from turning by two tabs on the front engine cover. Attempting to remove it using brute force you have the possibility of breaking off one of those tabs, and taking a chunk of the front engine cover along with it - and then you've got a much bigger problem on your hands. If the bolt is seized that tight in the engine block to begin with, you have a very good chance that you will end up rotating the oil filter housing, and the bolt will remain firmly in place, so you get nowhere.

From what I can see in your picture, you have a few options:

- Get a special socket like this one that will remove stripped bolt heads
- Use a hacksaw blade to file a slot in the bolt head, then use a large screwdriver to remove it
- File two sides of the bolt down, then grasp it with an adjustable wrench to remove it
- Drill the center of the bolt using ever-increasing drill sizes until the head of the bolt falls off, pull the oil filter housing off, then remove the rest of the bolt
- Use a grinder to remove the head of the bolt, pull the oil filter housing off, then remove the rest of the bolt

To me, all of these are preferable to putting a giant wrench on it and "jumping on it." :)

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby miroku800 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:02 am

As I said in my earlier post drain the water, remove the waterpump housing thus removing the locking tabs and then turn the whole filter housing
Its a chore certainly but it does work without any damage to the filter housing
been there, done that and got the t-shirt

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:36 am

Like I said - if the bolt is seized hard enough, you may be able to turn the housing with enough force, but the bolt will remain solid and won't turn at all, so it won't come off.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby tallman21 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:50 pm

Hal was probably right. some idiot probably put locktite on it

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby cpawilly » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:45 pm

I have a spare I'll send ya. No charge. just send me your address

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:58 pm

So it looks like that bolt is worn out, what would I do to remove this part, see that washer looking thing under the bolt, put a pipe wrench on that washer and turn down or counter clockwise, it should break the seal and come loose..You shouldn't have to kick on anything.. Good luck..

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:19 pm

littlebeaver wrote:So it looks like that bolt is worn out, what would I do to remove this part, see that washer looking thing under the bolt, put a pipe wrench on that washer and turn down or counter clockwise, it should break the seal and come loose..You shouldn't have to kick on anything.. Good luck..


That isn't a washer, it's part of the oil filter housing.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:49 pm

Actually it's part of the bolt, here's a photo..http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-GL ... 5d2dc9d766 this is for a newer wing probably 82. 83.. the second ebay picture shows the bolt and you can see it's not the housing..http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OIL-FILT ... ccessories this one is yours for a 80 model that will give you a good bite with a pipe wrench because it looks to be larger, I'd be very surprised if it didn't come loose..

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:15 am

I would never suggest using a pipe wrench on anything but in this case the bolt is already damaged badly and your gonna replace it anyway so, that's what I'd do, you do as you wish.. Good luck to ya..Doesn't matter who's right or wrong what matter's is that you get that sucker off.. :D

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby imfree » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:18 am

Like I said if it breaks the housing or the cover I will send you one,GET IT OFF its time to ride.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:53 pm

Sorry about that Wingman, I thought you were saying that the washer looking thingy was part of the filter case housing, and that would be kinda foolish to turn wouldn't it, I didn't know that the washer looking thing was called the housing.. I thought the housing was part of the case..oooop's :lol: Here I'm thinking its part of the bolt and it's all one piece..When will I learn.... :o :o :oops:

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:09 pm

imfree wrote:If the bolt is getting chewed get a big pipe wrench put it on the filter housing and jump on it if it breaks the housing let me know and I will send you another one.Joe

You are saying to put the wrench on the filter housing and jump on it, someone says that's a large wrench, What in the heck, are you talking about the big filter cover? If you are that just ain't cutting it..Doing something like that could get someone hurt, the bike could tip over off it's center stand, I wouldn't do that if I were you..

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby thrasherg » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:37 pm

I think we are all getting a bit confused, when referring to the washer part and fitting a wrench to it, he is referring to the large flange that is part of the central mounting bolt (Nothing to do with the oil filter housing/casting. As the bolt head is a bit modified :oops: it would make sense to try and get some kind of wrench on the the large round flange and use that to try and rotate the flange (and bolt as it's one piece). I used a cold chisel on the flanged (washer) part and managed to get the bolt to start moving and then with a wrench on the damaged head bolt I finished removing the bolt (Had to obviously buy a new bolt from Honda). I strongly recommend NOT trying to rotate the large casting that contains the oil filter, just focus on the mounting bolt in the middle and use the large flange/washer if possible as it will give you more leverage to get the bolt started.

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Re: oil housing bolt gl1100

Postby imfree » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:41 am

If that bolt is on hard enough to tip that bike over then you better get a cutting torch.




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