stater relay can't get the thing to start


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stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:40 am



When I got this '81 gl1100 a month ago it had an aftermarket relay next to the battery. Was not albe to put on the side cover. I went an got a starter relay off of ebay. Now the thing will not turn over. Tryed to put the old one back on an have nothing. Checked all of the fuses under the tank(good). Put a test light on the yellow wire, an pushed the button, shows 6v when the button is pushed. Is there a way to test the relays to see if they are good? Or am I doing something wrong? Hooked the 2 wires on the relay to the 2 wires coming to the relay. On the aftermarket it only had 1 termial. It had the yellow wire to it and the green wire grounded to the relay.



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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby cbx4evr » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:46 am

I don't have an 1100 and I'm no electrical expert but I don't think 6 volts will crank anything. What's the condition of the battery?
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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:10 am

I think that the battery is good. If I hit the + wire to the starter wire, it does turn the starter over. Just wondering if I am wiring it up wrong?

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:10 pm

If you're only getting 6 volts, I'd start suspecting the starter switch itself. Pull it apart and spray it clean with some electrical contact cleaner.

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:13 pm

Will try that tonight when I get home from work. I have an extra r side with starter button in it, have not plugged it in yet.

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:49 pm

Went out tonight and tried again to get the bike started. Nothing, when I push the start button, I have 12v on the yellow wire going to the relay, but nothing happens. This makes me think that the relay is no good. Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:08 pm

Is the relay clicking when you hit the starter button?

Where are you measuring the 6 volts?

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:10 pm

The relay is not clicking and when I went out tonight and checked it again I got 12v on the yellow wire. The 6v reading must have been an error. When I push the button, I hear nothing. When I take the reading. I am putting the red wire from my volt meter on the yellow wire and the black wire to the frame when I take the reading. So, to me that says that the starter button is good and the relay is bad. I cleaned up both screws on the relay with a wire brush just to make sure also.

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:51 am

That sure sounds like your solenoid (relay) is bad. Just to be sure, make sure the green (with red stripe) wire coming from the solenoid is grounded properly - if that wire is not grounded, the solenoid will not operate.

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby tprender » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:55 pm

Got the bike started to night. Ended up putting the car relay back on and it started right up. Both of the Honda relays that I had must be no good. Now I need to find a Good relay for a Goldwing. Thanks for the help for those that gave some ideas.

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:01 am

Glad you isolated the problem. If you can get a car solenoid in there to fit well, and it works, there's nothing saying that you can't just leave it like that. A car solenoid will be rated for much more current than the motorcycle solenoid, and it will be about 30 years newer. :)

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Re: stater relay can't get the thing to start

Postby OPIE » Wed May 11, 2011 10:17 pm

Before you throw the Honda relays away try taking it a part. I had the same problem this weekend. :evil: I took the screw out of the top center and nuts off the posts then tapped on the base. I couldn't get it apart and was to the poin of throwing it through the window. :x Not good. I finaly just ended up putting the nuts and screw back on. I thought what the heck and put it back in. Once I put the wires back on CORRECTLY :oops: I hit the button and it worked! :D I've been jumping the 2 post for the last year. I also cleaned the button switch. It's nice not to have use pliers each time I start her up. :lol: I don't know why or how it worked, but it did and I'm HAPPY! :D




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