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how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby oldwinger83 » Mon May 02, 2011 7:21 pm



do you check oil hot or cold ? what kna oil recomended ? easiest way to add antifreeze should check cold or warm ? 1983 gl 1100


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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby Oldsmores » Tue May 03, 2011 7:28 am

Check oil cold, on center stand. I won't touch the what kind - do a search and you'll find about 8,329 threads, with about as many opinions.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby WingAdmin » Tue May 03, 2011 4:51 pm

Always check the coolant when the engine is at running temperature. Fill the coolant reservoir to the "full" line if it is not already.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby thrasherg » Tue May 03, 2011 4:55 pm

Just to be clear, I think WingAdmin is telling you to check the coolant tank when the engine is at running temperature.. I could be wrong, but opening the radiator to check the coolant level when the engine is at running temperature is likely to give you a nasty bath in very hot coolant!! You can open the cap very slowly, but I would suggest checking it when the engine is cold!!

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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby eklimek » Tue May 03, 2011 10:16 pm

Liquids and lubricants expand when heated. Water about 4% between 0 and 100 degrees C.

http://physics.info/expansion/water-1.html
http://www.pantherlubes.com/tl_6.html

Although a pressurized cooling system raises the boiling point above 100 degrees, there is a risk of steam formation and scalding if decompressed suddenly with hot engine.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby RoadRogue » Tue May 03, 2011 10:59 pm

antifreeze level should be checked cold in the rad itself, overflow bottle filled to just above the cold mark.Checking a hot rad level is a sure fire way to get 2nd degree burns on your face and arms.
Oil is always checked on center stand either hot or cold, oil level wont change enough from cold to hot to make a real difference. I check mine everytime I add fuel, sometimes thats at the begining of the ride sometimes in the middle or end.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby pbassman » Wed May 04, 2011 9:26 am

Re checking engine oil. My GL 1100 has a sight glass to check oil level and can be a nuisance. JC Whitney has a dipstick kit that you can get for about 27 bucks and it works very well. You need to put the marks on the stick for safe operating range because it comes without them but it saves a lot of headaches whent checking oil.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby eklimek » Wed May 04, 2011 10:29 am

The Honda sight glass for oil level estimation is a step up from the Ford Model T (1909 -1926)

The Model T has three access points in the oil pan/flywheel cover. If it drips out of the top, it is over full. If it does not drip out of the middle, add 30 weight non detergent oil. To drain, open the bottom.

No oil pump or filter. Splash lubrication. Coolant circulation is convection with later years a water pump. Fuel is gravity fed from a tank under the seat. In steep terrain with low fuel, one backed up hill to supply the carburetor. Fuel is heated by the exhaust manifold to aid vaporization.

(Excuse my tangential posting for the day.)
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 06, 2011 3:11 pm

thrasherg wrote:Just to be clear, I think WingAdmin is telling you to check the coolant tank when the engine is at running temperature.. I could be wrong, but opening the radiator to check the coolant level when the engine is at running temperature is likely to give you a nasty bath in very hot coolant!! You can open the cap very slowly, but I would suggest checking it when the engine is cold!!

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You check it when it is at running temperature by checking the level of coolant in the reservoir, NOT by opening the radiator cap! Opening the radiator cap on a hot engine will cause severe scalds and burns!! I should have specified that.

When flushing the cooling system, you refill it with new coolant, then run the engine with the radiator cap already off, and continually add more coolant as it works air bubbles out of the system. When you stop seeing bubbles appear, and the coolant level rises up to the radiator filler neck, you can shut the engine off and put the cap on, then fill the reservoir up to the "full" line. As the engine cools, it will draw coolant back down into the engine from the reservoir. However, when you start it back up and warm it up, you should see the reservoir go back up to the "full" line - and that is how you check your coolant level in everyday usage.
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Re: how to check oil? antifreeze ?

Postby WingAdmin » Fri May 06, 2011 3:13 pm

RoadRogue wrote:antifreeze level should be checked cold in the rad itself, overflow bottle filled to just above the cold mark.Checking a hot rad level is a sure fire way to get 2nd degree burns on your face and arms.
Oil is always checked on center stand either hot or cold, oil level wont change enough from cold to hot to make a real difference. I check mine everytime I add fuel, sometimes thats at the begining of the ride sometimes in the middle or end.


Sorry...both the owners manual AND the service manual for the 1100 say to check antifreeze level when engine is at operating temperature, by checking the level in the reservoir.

When checking oil, keep in mind that if you check it right after you've shut the engine off, it's going to show low, because some of the oil is still up in the engine. As it drips down into the bottom of the engine, you'll see the level come up, so you should usually give it a few minutes after running before checking it.



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