Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.


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Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby blackbrier » Wed May 25, 2011 6:54 pm



Having an Issue with my rear brake pedal not comming up after being depressed. Unless I put my foot under it and pull up. About 2 weeks ago, while on a ride with the wife, I had to really get on the brakes to stop at a light. The car in front of me stoped short. Since then, the brake pedal stays down when depressed and released. I have looked at the area and everything is there and I dont see anything broken. It still works, but feels really spongy and I seem to be pushing it alot further down than before.

I have read through Haynes and Clymer maintence manuals to no avail. Any suggestions?

Thanks, Dennis, Roy, WA



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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby virgilmobile » Wed May 25, 2011 7:38 pm

The actual brake pedal pivots on a post welded to the frame.Mine would do the same thing.I pulled the cotter pin and washer,sprayed WD40 on the joint and worked the pedal slightly on and off the post,maybe a 1/4".It finally loosened up where I could put a drop of oil on it.

Spongy brakes are usually symptoms of old brake fluid or air in the line(flush it out with DOT 4).If that doesn't improve it satisfactorily then replace the rubber brake lines with steel braided ones.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby thrasherg » Thu May 26, 2011 9:35 am

As Virgilmobile says, the brake lever pivots on a steel pin (Part of the frame) and it usually gets full of dust/rust and makes the pedal too stiff for the spring to return it. I would remove the split/cotter pin, pull the lever off, clean up the pin and the area inside the pedal where the pin goes, apply plenty of grease and re-assemble. It will probably cure your problem and cost 15 minutes of your time and a bit of grease (both elbow and petroleum!).

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby blackbrier » Thu May 26, 2011 9:43 am

Thanks for the insight. Will be doing that as soon as it warms up a little. And stops raining. I know, ha ha. Im in Washington. Will then re-bleed the brakes to see if I can resolve the long travel and spongy brake issue. Any sugentions on where to get braded lines for the brakes, or just any vehicle parts place?

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby thrasherg » Thu May 26, 2011 9:45 am

If the brake pedal is sticking down I suspect the rear brake has been dragging and you may have boiled the brake fluid. That would then make them spongy.. I would not just bleed the brakes, but I would flush them and get new brake fluid in the entire system..

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby blackbrier » Thu May 26, 2011 8:34 pm

Well I must not be as fast as Gary is. Took me just under an hour. Would have been alot easier to fix 3 weeks ago when I had the Exhaust system pulled off for a diffrent issue. But it is done and what a diffrence. Thanks to everyone that gave me suggestions and helped.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby thrasherg » Fri May 27, 2011 9:52 am

Hi Dennis, Glad to hear you got it fixed.. On my dirt bike it takes less than 15 minutes but I haven't tried it on a wing!! :D

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby Old Fogey » Sun May 29, 2011 6:54 pm

Anyone else with a sticking pedal problem might like to have a look at this:

http://www.wingovations.com/#/rear-brak ... 4548235017
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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby reoband » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:20 pm

i would have that problem with my 83 & i would just get in the habit of making sure it was clean at the begining of each season & at least once during the season

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby DragonRider » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:15 pm

When I had this same problem two years ago I took the sidestand off and decided to drill it out and I went to Lowes and purchased a nylon bushing which fits nicely on the shaft and tightly on the stand. since then all I need to do is wash it once and a while and thats it.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby DragonRider » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:11 pm

DragonRider wrote:When I had this same problem two years ago I took the sidestand off and decided to drill it out and I went to Lowes and purchased a nylon bushing which fits nicely on the shaft and tightly on the stand. since then all I need to do is wash it once and a while and thats it.


SORRY everyone I goofed up, I have been working on a sidestand on a friends bike so I had that on my mind. I did drill out and install a nylon bushing from Lowes on my brake peddle mounting stud.
Since there is no longer metal on metal the two do not rust together which tended to be the real big problem.
Again Sorry my mind was elsewhere.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:48 am

The nylon bushing is a good idea, I'd still want to take it out every couple of years and check to make sure the bushing is in good shape - there's a lot of pressure applied on the bottom of that pivot pin when you press the brake down. I'd probably still put some lithium grease in there anyway.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby mcasteel » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:56 am

Thanks for this post, I have the exact same problem with my 82 Interstate. I ordered a MC rebuild kit today, but am going to give this a try first to see how that goes. Where can I find replacement cotter pins? Can I get them somewhere like Lowe's?
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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby DragonRider » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:45 am

mcasteel wrote:Thanks for this post, I have the exact same problem with my 82 Interstate. I ordered a MC rebuild kit today, but am going to give this a try first to see how that goes. Where can I find replacement cotter pins? Can I get them somewhere like Lowe's?


Cotter pins, you can get them at Lowes, Home Depot, Wal-mart, Target, Pep boys, Advance auto part, Napa, You get the idea?
Buy a box of assorted sizes and keep it in your tool box. There are alot of cotter pins on these bikes so its always good to have some laying around.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:02 pm

I'd recommend using a stainless cotter pin for the rear master cylinder. That cotter pin is pretty small, it's hanging down there in the road spray, and it wouldn't take much rust for it to just vanish.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby littlebeaver » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:58 pm

You may want to make certain that your rear brake caliper is releasing as it should while your at it just to make sure it is....Good luck...

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby mcasteel » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:11 am

OK, I worked trying to get the brake pedal off the bike for a couple of days, could not get the cotter pin out to remove the brake pedal so I could clean it, even broke a pair of needle nose pliers trying to get it to come out. In frustration, I soaked the piviot point in WD40 and worked it for a few minutes and it freed up and has been working great ever since. Dont know how long it is going to last but it is working for now. :P
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Postby mcasteel » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:12 am

Thanks DragonRider and WingAdmin for your help!! :D
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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby TGStorm » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:09 pm

Now I have this issue,, going to dig into it on Saturday morning,, is there a easy way to change the break fluid???? I looked under the DIY but came up blank.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:21 pm

TGStorm wrote:Now I have this issue,, going to dig into it on Saturday morning,, is there a easy way to change the break fluid???? I looked under the DIY but came up blank.


If you're not rebuilding the brakes, just top up the rear reservoir, then bleed the brakes (press brake pedal down, open bleed valve on caliper until brake pedal sinks down, close bleed valve, lift up on brake pedal, repeat). Keep topping up the reservoir with fresh fluid as you go, and you'll eventually have flushed all the old fluid out and replaced it with fresh fluid.

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Re: Rear Brake Pedal stays down when depressed and released.

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