'82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild


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'82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Oldbeau44 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:49 pm



New to this great web site and in hopes someone could advise on rebuilding the carbs.

Symptoms: Will not run below 2500 RPM without Choke at lease 3/4 on, 1 or 2 cylinders are occasionally suffering preignition at less than 2000 RPM, runs OK above 3000 RPM. Bike has been sitting for several months and I failed to treat the gas or drain everything. Bike has 10,000 miles on the original carbs.
My Best Guess: Varnish has formed in the Idle passages, or is otherwise creating problems with the idle circuits in several of the carbs. Cleaned and gapped the plugs, which helped only slightly. They were not wet nor covered with heavy carbon deposits, and all 4 had the same appearance.
My Problem: Don't have the money to hire it out, and can barely cover the $200 for the Randakks kit I discovered. So, I will attempt to "Poor Boy" it, and do the job myself with a kit of parts.
My Questions:
1) Can anyone offer another explanation for these symptoms?
2) If the consensus is carb problems. Can you advise if the Randakks carb rebuild kit and instruction book are of best quality?
3) For rebuilding carbs is there an alternate way to go?

I would really appreciate any suggestions you can offer. :D
Thanks for your time and Best Regards... Beau



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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby guitarlos » Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:58 pm

Since you stated Poor Boy, have you started with SeaFoam?

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Oldbeau44 » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:08 am

Not familiar with "SeaFoam." How does it work?

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby guitarlos » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:59 am

Its less than 10 bucks USD a can
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment/index.html

Walmart usually sells this for $8.68 a can

Its a good first step in the Poor Boy direction ;)

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Cal-D » Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:22 am

First, drain all the old gas from carbs and tank. Fill with new gas and add 1/2 can of seafoam(NAPA) to the tank. Sounds like the low speed jets are pluged. On the 82 the low speed jets are press fitted and not designed to be removed but can be if done correctly.
I would give the seafoam a chance to work and possibly clean the carbs. Run the bike at least one tank of gas with the seafoam and see what happens. If there is no improvement then the carbs will have to be removed and cleaned. I have done many 1100 carbs and seldom need to replace any parts, usually just a good cleaning and proper adjustment is all that is needed.

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:11 am

I have had carbs (on my old 1989 GSXR750) that were in such bad shape it was flooding the engine and leaking gas all over, that took about 3 full cans of Seafoam (over three tanks of gas) to clean up - but in the end, it did clean them up. It got steadily better and better until the bike ran like new again. $30 for three cans of Seafoam was a lot cheaper than pulling the carbs and doing it by hand.

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Oldbeau44 » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:40 am

Thanks to all for your suggestions. I was able to purchase a can of SeaFoam on Sunday, and will try the "drain & treat" plan. I'm glad you recommended using more than the SeaFoam instruction; 1 oz per gal just didn't sound like enough.

I'll post again when I get some results.

Regards... Beau

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby jwind » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:59 pm

I have just finshed a rebuild on my 1983 carbs using the radkkin book and rebuild kits off line not easy but can be done.The problem is adjusting the cabs after the rebuild,I replaced all the jets and now just need to balance the carbs.I will make my own mammomiter, i found it on line

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby bozack » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:32 pm

TRY SEAFOAM ALREADY!

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby guitarlos » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:08 am

Howd that Seafoam work for you?

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Oldbeau44 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:52 am

Actually, I managed to break the fuel valve while trying to get the old hose off. (I think it was the original '82 hose.) New one just arrived and I should have it back together with a new filter on Friday. Will post results later.

Regards,
Beau

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby DCoxson1969 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:34 am

I am in the process of having my carbs done by Kevin at Accurate Cycle Service, he is located at 1022 Marks Rd, Valley City, Oh 44280. I know he is not local to most of you but here is what he said the problem with the older Wings. The piolet jets are pressed in and that makes it harder to deal with. Most bike shops would not even touch that year. Mine were plugged solid and has taken him a long time of spraying them down with carb cleaner to get them to open up. Now having a rack of carbs on your bench is not as big a priority as working on a whole bike and not as much income, so I am sure that has something to do with how long it has taken, but that is the hardest part with rebuilding the carbs. The PO had changed all the parts inside the carb but the floats were in upside down and also created problems, but with all the new parts being installed already and me taking the whole rack off and dropping it off at his shop, he only charged me $60 to get them straighten out. I think that is a great deal.
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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby guitarlos » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:28 am

Thats a heck of a deal alright as I was quoted $280 just to clean out my carbs on my 1980 Gl1100. Im glad that I was able to do it myself with good ole Seafoam! ;)

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby DCoxson1969 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:41 am

I worked at a local auto parts store, and I always recommended Seafoam to customers with both gas and oil issues. Never got any complaints or has any one said it did not do the trick.
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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby WingAdmin » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:57 pm

DCoxson1969 wrote:I am in the process of having my carbs done by Kevin at Accurate Cycle Service, he is located at 1022 Marks Rd, Valley City, Oh 44280. I know he is not local to most of you but here is what he said the problem with the older Wings. The piolet jets are pressed in and that makes it harder to deal with. Most bike shops would not even touch that year. Mine were plugged solid and has taken him a long time of spraying them down with carb cleaner to get them to open up. Now having a rack of carbs on your bench is not as big a priority as working on a whole bike and not as much income, so I am sure that has something to do with how long it has taken, but that is the hardest part with rebuilding the carbs. The PO had changed all the parts inside the carb but the floats were in upside down and also created problems, but with all the new parts being installed already and me taking the whole rack off and dropping it off at his shop, he only charged me $60 to get them straighten out. I think that is a great deal.


I second your endorsement of Kevin at Accurate Cycle (as well as Gary at Cyclemax in front!). He's a great guy, his rates are good, and when it comes to Goldwings, he knows exactly what he's talking about. Plus he lives just around the corner from me. :)

Take a couple minutes to give him a good rating to help others!

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby tumunga » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:10 pm

DCoxson1969 wrote:I am in the process of having my carbs done by Kevin at Accurate Cycle Service, he is located at 1022 Marks Rd, Valley City, Oh 44280. I know he is not local to most of you but here is what he said the problem with the older Wings. The piolet jets are pressed in and that makes it harder to deal with. Most bike shops would not even touch that year. Mine were plugged solid and has taken him a long time of spraying them down with carb cleaner to get them to open up. Now having a rack of carbs on your bench is not as big a priority as working on a whole bike and not as much income, so I am sure that has something to do with how long it has taken, but that is the hardest part with rebuilding the carbs. The PO had changed all the parts inside the carb but the floats were in upside down and also created problems, but with all the new parts being installed already and me taking the whole rack off and dropping it off at his shop, he only charged me $60 to get them straighten out. I think that is a great deal.


I have an 80 Interstate, and I had to clean out the idle jets on my carbs as well. I did a rebuild of the carbs, and didn't know about the idle jets. I thought a blast of compressed air would do the trick, but it didn't. All of the idle jets were clogged, and every cleaner I tried wouldn't clear them. I tried soaking them with carb cleaner, and sea foam. They must have been sitting for a long time before I got the bike.

What I did is I took the carbs back off the bike, pulled the bowls and floats from the carbs, and set them bowl side up in a cake pan. I then poured boiling water into the idle jets, and then gently poked a .009 inch steel guitar string into the idle jets (.012 is too large to fit through the pressed-in idle jets) until the water would seep through the jet, letting me know the jet was cleared. It took about 20 minutes to clear all of the jets, plus it didn't cost me anything but my time. The bike runs like a top, thanks to the syncing instructions I found on this site.
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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby Oldbeau44 » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:23 pm

I finally got the bike back together and run it for about an hour with a can of SeaFoam. It's starting to run better, but still won't idle without some choke. I think SeaFoam was what was needed, and it should get better with more ride time.

Thanks for the great suggestion to use SeaFoam.

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Re: '82 GL1100 Carb Rebuild

Postby 10iron » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:41 pm

My bike was running like yours. Idle jets were plugged. I went to local Honda dealer and bought 4 new aftermarket jets for $5.00@. Bike idled great after the slow speed jets were replaced. I cleaned and lined my tank as this was a bike that had been sitting for 7 years in a barn. Rust was getting through the filter. Sounds like slow speed jets are clogged. At idle only cyl #3 was getting gas and it thumped along on only 1 cylinder.




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