Adjusting the timing and other simple questions


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Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby TGStorm » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:05 pm



OK, I have bought the Timing Belts and a few other things (oil filter, air filter, radiator fluid, plugs,ect..,, ? on drive train ) and have seen the link to how to change them, but here is one of my questions, at the end it says

"New belts CAN move the ignition timing a much as a few degrees according to Randakk."

If this is true, how do I adjust the timing, or do I even need to??? the last time I adjusted the timing was on an '80 mazda 626 where I used a timing light and turned the distributor cap by hand till it was right,, lol . Never had to do this with a bike before.

My next question is what is the best engine oil to use in my 82 GL1100? and if I wanted to change the oil in the drive shaft at the back wheel, again what would be the best oil or fluid to use? always been partial to LUCAS fluids/oils.



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Re: Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:13 pm

"New belts CAN move the ignition timing a much as a few degrees according to Randakk."

Well thats not right on the 1100,It may change the scavenge angle of the valves slightly(the valve overlap) but the ignition timing is not belt dependent.The 1100 ignition system is not driven by the belts,only the valves are.The ignition is timing mechanism is on the rear of the engine and is gear driven.
No oil in the driveshaft,only gear oil in the differential.But you should pull the rear wheel and final drive and moly the splined couplers.
Use the oil your comfortable with.It is just like a car motor....except..It has a oil bathed clutch(no friction modifiers allowed)and it has a lot of stress internal(cheap oil will break down quicker).
Everyone has an opinion.There all valid.
Personally in my 78 gl1000,81gl1100,83gl1100,84gl1200 and several other foreign and domestic vehicles,I use Castrol.The bikes get 20-50 the cars get 10-40.
My preference stems from the idea that Castrol is an alkaloid based oil(better for aluminum blocks,cleaner)and other brands(Texaco)are paraffin based(leaves a yellow coating baked onto the innards of aluminum,bad heat transfer).

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Re: Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby TGStorm » Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:57 pm

I am such a goof, was in a hurry, I did mean the diff gear oil not the drive shaft oil. And I like how Lucas gear oil is thick and seems to stick nicly to the gears, I just wanted to make sure it was ok to put it in this bikes diff.? Thanks for all the other info it is good to know, just wondering why he said that about the timing when he says he is working on a 81 gl1100 but it would work on (I think he said) 79 to 84 gl1100's? May be wrong on this. Either way thanks, need all the help I can get.

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Re: Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby virgilmobile » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:27 am

Now the gl1000 ignition timing can be changed by replacing the timing belt.It's points are attached to the left head,at the end of the cam shaft.I also remember a wing that puts the pickup coil up front near the cam sprocket.I think it's one of the 1200's.My 84 gl1200 interstate is in the rear.
The differential oil type requirement is cast on it.I think mine says 90w hypo oil and is not brand specific.
Don't agonize over problems you run into,post the question.Many of us have been running these bikes for a long time and have run into many of the problems you may experience,even the more obscure ones.
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Re: Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby TGStorm » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:33 pm

WOO HOO,, I did it,, changed the belts,,,, and she still run's !!!!!! :D But let me tell ya,, it was not as easy as they say.. had to take half the bike apart just to get to the front timing belt cover. (knew I had to remove the front fairings and the radiator, but to remove the RAD you have to remove the false tank, to remove the tank you have to remove the Air suspension system, PLUS you have to remove the seat, to remove the seat you have to remove the left saddle pack,,,,,,,,,ect,,,,, good grief,,,LOL ) anyhow, all back together and now I feel better about having a "new" set of belts. ;)

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Re: Adjusting the timing and other simple questions

Postby WingAdmin » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:02 pm

You can remove the seat without removing the bags - if you push your finger into it, you'll see that underneath the weatherstripping on the bag is a small indentation right where the bolt is to remove the seat, so your tool can fit in there, allowing you to loosen the bolt without removing the bag.

But yeah, an awful lot of stuff has to come off to get the radiator off. I dread doing it. :)




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