Gl1100 missing


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Gl1100 missing

Postby mbeerman » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:18 pm



I have an 83 Gl1100 Interstate. I have just done a complete carburetor rebuild and I have noticed that I am still experiencing hesitation/bogging in the mid range as I am accelerating. When I am cruising at 110 km/h in 5th gear, I can feel the motor missing, and am wondering what I can check. Could it be my plug wires or coil, and if so, how can I test them to make sure my ignition is functioning properly? When I was checking my plugs with a mechanic friend, he said the spark from the plugs was not very bright.
I have changed the oil/filter, air filter/ new iridium plugs/fuel filter.

Any help would be great.



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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:54 pm

If this was my problem I might test the pulse generator at the plug, check the ohm's on the plug wires, I'd check the coil for cracks, I hear they get cracks in them and then there's the wires and caps test them, and then you have spark units ...I'm not an expert but some of these guys sure are, I say if they read this,please step in and help this guy out...I think all the information on this is in the manual if you have one...I do not know if you have one..

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby mbeerman » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:29 pm

Thanks for your advice. I do have an electronic version of the Honda manual for my bike. I read it and have the specs for testing the ignition components. I will let you know how it goes.

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby littlebeaver » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:30 pm

If you have a vac hand pump like a mitty vac you may want to test your vacuum advance at the cannister, many of them have holes in the diaphragm in the cannister..thus making your bike not 100% well..the readings for that test is also in the manual.

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby DCoxson1969 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:48 am

Funny how the subject line can make you think different things. I thought either you misplaced the bike or someone took it...lol Sorry had to tell you all, what a blonde moment...
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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby mbeerman » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:50 am

I have done some experimenting over the last two days. It seems that I don't experience the bogging/hesitation nearly as much when I put the choke on. I think that this means that for some reason I am running too lean. I don't know what the solution would be. Is it possible that my floats are set too low? When I set the floats during the rebuild, I used vernier calipers and set the floats at 15.5 mm as per the specs.

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby littlebeaver » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:45 pm

Oh yes, those floats all need to be checked, and I think there is a setting for the idle screws in the manual for your too lean problem, something like 2 turns out or something like that, I'm no mechanic, but some here are..So maybe they can help you better than I can..You may want to clean up those pistons in your carbs too. polish them..Sometimes they stick...

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby mbeerman » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:40 pm

After taking the carbs out several times, I have solved the problem. I took the new main jets out and replaced them with the stock 145's that were in before. I also checked the new needles and compared them to the OEM ones that I took out and found that the OEM needles are not as thick. This is why my midrange power was limited. I changed the needles back to the old ones and also changed the secondary jets back to the originals as well. The bike now runs like a top with no midrange boggin/missing.

I had one piece of black rubber gas line from the pump to the carburetor that I changed to clear plastic like all of the rest. I have adjusted the low idle mixture and balanced the carbs and everything runs well.

Anyone who is reading this post and may be thinking of rebuilding their carbs, DO NOT get the Saber Cycle rebuild kit, spend a little more and get the Randakk kit. You will not be sorry. I ended up using all of my old carb parts instead of the Saber Cycle rebuild parts to get the bike to run well.

P.S. I have a spare set of carbs that I will be rebuilding for an 83 GL1100. If anyone is interested in purchasing them from me, let me know.

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby cbach1981 » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:17 pm

Might I be the first to point out that not buying parts from saber is the mantra here. we all chant the phrase "Buy nothing from Saber, garbage can be gotten for free at the local land-fill" as we look for parts!
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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby littlebeaver » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:20 pm

Good job ... Happy 4th...

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby WingAdmin » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:11 pm

Sorry to hear you had to go through the problems you did...wish you had mentioned it was a Saber Cycle rebuild kit in the first message, we could have solved your problem right away. :)

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby mbeerman » Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:58 pm

Saving a few bucks was not worth it, however I did learn a lot about how a carburetor works. I have a good friend at my church who was able to walk me through the rebuilding process and then helped me trouble-shoot the ensuing problems. I can take my bike apart with my eyes closed now too!

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Re: Gl1100 missing

Postby macka » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:33 pm

now can I send you my carbs for a check up? :D see if I did it right. Seriously though this is good for the learning curve. I've been reading a lot and correcting my mistakes.




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