How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A


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How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby BStewart327 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:52 pm



I have had several people troubleshoot why I can not shift out of first gear after replacing my clutch cable. Today, a new mechanic looked at it and was firm that the clutch friction plates have worn down after 63K miles and that the occasional rattle I hear is the clutch. Can anyone explain to me how to change re-build the clutch please?



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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby virgilmobile » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:23 pm

Before I jump into rebuilding,let me ask a question or two.
Did the clutch work before you changed the cable?
Why was the cable changed?
If the clutch plates wear,it usually gets easier to disengage,not harder.
Example..my 83 gl1100 with 157000 miles had a clutch problem.Pull in the clutch,stick it in gear and it would kill the engine.Some Sea Foam and hard use of the clutch(letting it slip a few times) loosened it up.

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:19 am

Sometimes the clutch plates stick due to crap in the oil.. If you drain a quart of oil out put in some sea foam run it easy for 100 miles it may loosen up the plates and ride like new.

But most pull the engine but it can be down with the engine in place it's just real tight and hard to wiggle the main basket in and out but it can be done ..there's a secret to it..in most of the how's it's explained fairly well.

like here.. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7535

or here. http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6905
HAD LOTS OF GOLDWING 75-83
NOW INTO 1500'S..RIDING A 1998 SE

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby BStewart327 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:47 pm

In response to Virgilmobile, everything was working great and then it suddenly got hard to shift. I adjusted the clutch cable and that seemed to work for a week, and then
the issue started again. The clutch cable was at the end of the adjustments so I put on a new cable. Still the problem. There was over an inch of freeplay at the lower end
and that is what led to the diagnosis of the clutch friction plates being worn down. I have ordered new friction plates, gasket seal, and springs. I also have the Repair manuel
now. Thank you for your questions and insight.

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby BStewart327 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:52 pm

one other thing...it is the first time i have used semi synthetic oil at the oil change, would that have an effect on the clutch performance?

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby virgilmobile » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:07 pm

I haven't heard of a problem with that oil.By your description the friction plates are coming apart with that much free play at the engine.You may need to clean the block if all that friction material is ate off and floating around in there.I wouldn't want it plugging up the oil pickup screen.

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby canadianredneck » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:11 am

I know this is an older post, butt...... I am looking at a 83 1100 naked that needs a clutch and (tlc) for 500. Looks good for 56k. trying to figure out if its worth the 2 hour ride in a cage to go look???????

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:24 am

Personally I'd **** it up just for the price.$500 bucks...I paid that for a parts bike not running just to get the engine and forks.
You'd be hard pressed to convince me that at 56k miles that the clutch gave up,unless it's 156k.Just try to start it up.A running engine is half the battle.You'll know if the owner abused it or butchered the engine.
Bounce the shocks.If they are shot,the rider may have been using it for a trail bike :D

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby littlebear » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:46 pm

I cannot adjust the new clutch cable correctly on my 1981 GL1100. Perhaps that's not too surprising since I never tried to adjust one before, but I thought I could figure it out as I went along. It won't disengage no matter what I do. Everything was fine untill the original cable broke, so I am assuming there is no expensive reason for this. The bike only has 40,000 miles on it. -little bear

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby WingAdmin » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:56 am

littlebear wrote:I cannot adjust the new clutch cable correctly on my 1981 GL1100. Perhaps that's not too surprising since I never tried to adjust one before, but I thought I could figure it out as I went along. It won't disengage no matter what I do. Everything was fine untill the original cable broke, so I am assuming there is no expensive reason for this. The bike only has 40,000 miles on it. -little bear


Have you looked at How to replace your clutch cable? The correct adjustment procedure is in there.

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby littlebear » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:37 pm

Yes, I actually read the directions, but to no avail. I keep getting the feeling as I mess with it that the cable is too long, because I run out of adjustment on BOTH ends, and still no disengage. My friend bought the cable last year when he still owned the bike, from a local Honda dealership, and had his car mechanic install it because the dealer wouldn't work on a bike that old. I am doing a lot of other work to the bike, and have taken a lot of things off, like the gas tank; so it was easy enough for me to take the cable off too and measure it. It is 68 and 7/8ths inches long. I called the Honda place and asked if that was the right length, and they said they didn't know. They did tell me the part no. for the correct cable for this bike is 22870-463-670. The only no. I found on the cable is OFO2. -little bear

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby WingAdmin » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:09 pm

Just to make sure you're doing it the right way...when you pull the clutch lever, it pulls the cable away from the engine. If the clutch won't disengage (engine is connected to the wheel at all times) then you have to shorten the cable. So you have both adjusters set out as far as they will go without coming apart and it still won't disengage?

The cables normally come a bit short when new, because they will stretch a bit over time.

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Re: How to re-build a clutch on 1983 GL1100A

Postby littlebear » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:13 pm

Yes, that's right. The only way I could shorten it any more is to cut it. -little bear




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