1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION


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1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:25 pm



I have a question and need an anwser regarding the small fuel joint pipe that connects carb#1 to #3. Can anyone tell me if the small joint orfice is closed or does fuel pass through this orfice on #1 carb. I can't seem to get this passage clear unless there isn't anything to clear. I have tried to force very small diameter wire and compressed air through but it appears to be a dead end. I'm in the process of completing a build up of a set of spare carbs and this has me stumped. PLEASE HELP!!!



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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby keithg64 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:37 pm

http://www.hondapartsline.com/fiche_sec ... &fveh=3434

says here it's a fuel joint so I'm guessing it should be through.
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:50 pm

I know it says its a joint but it doesn't appear to have a passage. I have passages through all the other joints except this one...and that's why im hoping somebody can tell me for sure.

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby RBGERSON » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:29 am

Not sure which passage you are talking about got a pic??? but fuel does go from 3 to 1 to 2 to 4..and there is a pass through from 3 to 1 I think in the lower corner of the split but could be upper corner..been awhile since I had the plenum split and individual carbs off. Arrows point to fuel passages on carbs..so line to see plenum match...
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:47 pm

Here is the pic of #1 carb, the small jet pipe that connects to this orfice does not allow air does not pass into the carb, if it is supposed to pass through this orfice then I guess i'm screwed and need to dissasemble again and maybe use a water pic. good thing is i'm getting pretty good at the disssasembly and reassembly. I've made a few mistakes with trying to take parts off 2 seperate carb assemblies to make 1 good, one big mistake was the choke buttter fly valves, i had put the wrong one in and could not figure out for several days why i could not get the valves to work together. Also was the slider and covers, there are different styles as you can see in my pics on my picture board. My last question on this orfice deal is this supposed to be open, trying to clear with very small wire and carb cleaner has done no good, water pic????
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby RBGERSON » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:18 am

Fairly sure only the fat one is for fuel. not the thin one you are pointing to.
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby ax7el34 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:04 pm

In case you get stuck, go to www.oldwings.com A fellow by the name of Pistol Pete has a carburetor business and might be able to help. Very good with 1000's and 1100's.

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:37 pm

Thanks for the input. I will try and ask Pistol Pete for verificatiion.

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:10 pm

In case I don't get a response from Pistol Pete does any GURU oy there know for sure what passes through this SMALL jet pipe?

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby indianakid » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:44 am

The Pipes / Tubes you are referring to are fuel transfer tubes in between carbs on the same side. There are also passages in the plenum that transfers fuel from right to left. The larger tube is for the fuel supply. The smaller tube is for the accelerator pump. The accelerator pump is only on the #3 carb but it squirts fuel in all four using these passages. I hope this helps. I have also included a file I made up showing the features of the carbs on my 83.
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:06 am

Thanks IAKid! This is excellant and now I know that i need to try again and clear what ever obstruction is clogging my #1 carb. I guess i will try a water pic to see if i can dislodge it. Thanks again to you and Pistol Pete for your knowledge!!

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:36 am

Extremely FRUSTRATED. Took carbs apart again and tried to clean the small orfice with a water pick and small piece of wire...NO LUCK. I then shot comppressed air through the #3 carb and see that air will pass through the face of the carb through the small o ring hole that mates to the plenum half that contains the "small loose straw". I don't believe there is an opening on the #1 carb
see that on face of carb the machined hole
see that on face of carb the machined hole
. Am I crazy!!
shot air through #3 carb and exits at the small o ring on carb face
shot air through #3 carb and exits at the small o ring on carb face
I believe that the #1 carb end is DEAD. HELP!!!!!!!!

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby indianakid » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:22 pm

Carb #3 feeds to carb #1 thru the tubes and to carb #4 thru the plenum. Carb #4 then feeds to carb #2 thru the tubes. There fore carbs #1 and #2 do not connect to the plenum.

so if you are working on #1 (or #2) when you spray cleaner into the port for the small tube it will only come out the the accel jet in the throat of the carb.

hope things are going better now.

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:24 am

Do you have a better method of cleaning this accel jet, it must be totally rusted shut? Also, to confirm is the accel jet the brass looking post that sticks out next to the choke, I don't see any holes on this unless they are on the backside? It's taking awhile for me to figure out these carbs, if all 4 carbs have this accel jet in the throat I suppose that fuel should shoot out all these "posts" and the opening must be very very small. I got these carbs off ebay so no telling how long they sat...good thing i'm not waiting to fix these to ride :D

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby indianakid » Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:29 am

you are correct the port is on the back / down stream side. you should be able to see it with the slide removed and throttle held open. or you could remove the plug and gain direct access. i have not done this but looking at #3 it looks like an option.
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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby stevenstrack » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:34 pm

Finally cleared the obstruction clogging the post port in the #1 carb throat. I haven't been working on this issue for awhile (it's a spare set), went on vacation to Jamaca... came back home... work ....work...work...was bored yesterday and thought I would give it another shot, took a guitar string out of my sons guitar after about a hour of trying to stick the hole went back and got another string (smaller) and vola was able to get carb cleaner to drain through that little darned copper/brass looking post. I put carbs back together again and now i'm ready to test them. I may just wait though till end of Fall for testing. Thanks to all that have given me guidance during this endeavor...it will be nice to hear them purr.

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Re: 1983 GL1100I CARB QUESTION

Postby indianakid » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:11 am

Glad to hear that you got it cleared and I agree that it will be nice to hear them "purr". But would not wait till fall to get a new set of strings for your sons guitar as I am sure it is just as nice to hear him play. Which reminds me i should take the Wing for a ride and go to Guitar Center and get a new set of strings for my Gibson.




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