Have i got a good one for you?


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RexAubrey
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Have i got a good one for you?

Postby RexAubrey » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:00 pm



Ok, I have never seen anything like this one before. I rode the bike to work today about 21 miles with no problem. On the way home I stopped for gas about a mile from home and when i went to start the bike again it would not start. It tried then just went to a click from the switch. This has happened before and if i give it a short rest it usually will start up. i waited about 10 minutes and tried again this time it just clicked again then i lost all electric on the bike. checked the fuses in the false tank, all good. decided to check the 30 amp fuse (already got rid of the dogbone fuse) and when i took the side cover off i found my problem.

The negative battery terminal had melted off the battery. 30 amp fuse was still good, no melted wiring or insulation, no signs of a short of any kind. The battery is new less than a week old. I bought it from NAPA it is a DEKA Extreme Power Sport sealed battery.

Any idea what would have caused this? I had my son bring me a spare battery and then push started the bike after trying the electric again and only getting a click. everything remained cool to the touch even after driving it the last mile back to the house. I am puzzled.


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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby RBGERSON » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:40 am

melted equals resistance..lead connector the softest metal..so it melts first??? loose connection, dirty connection, faulty battery inside?
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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby virgilmobile » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:49 am

Right.melting = heat.heat created by arcing(probably during the high current start).arcing melts terminal.

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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby RexAubrey » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:53 am

Ok thanks, I think, since there is no other indicators, it was probably a faulty battery. I am returning it to NAPA during lunch today and will try another one.
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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby thrasherg » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:46 am

As mentioned, it was probably a bad contact between the cable and the battery. Make sure to clean the connections on the end of the wire and get as good a connection as possible, then cover the connections with Vaseline to prevent corrosion from forming later on and repeating this problem!!

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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby dingdong » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:30 am

Keep us posted of the outcome. Interested to know if you get an argument from Napa.
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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby RexAubrey » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:29 pm

No argument from NAPA. No one there had ever seen this either. The way the post is on the battery it is made with a round lead post then a piece of steel with tapped holes is placed next to the post and bonded to it with more lead. I think there may have been an air bubble in the bonding lead and it was arching inside that air bubble causing enough heat to melt the bonding lead. The terminal to cable connection was clean and was still clean and tight even after the meltdown.
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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby thrasherg » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:41 pm

Sounds like Napa have another satisfied customer.. Great to hear they stood behind their products..

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Re: Have i got a good one for you?

Postby RexAubrey » Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:16 pm

Well, I finally found out what caused the battery terminal to melt. I had a intermittent short in the starter that turned into a dead short. Heated up the ground and melted the terminal. put my spare starter in along with the new battery and all is well again.


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